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Kind of feel like we’re talking past each other.
Suicide is your right. No qualms with that. I support thoughtful assisted dying and no one can stop you from taking your own life if you are determined to do so.
But the comment mentioning a dramatically increased probability of death by firearm isn’t disingenuous. They were answering someone talking about acquiring a firearm to protect themselves from others. I think it’s reasonable to remind anyone considering a firearm for self protection to understand they’re more likely to die by firearm as a result of that choice no matter how the death occurs. Even if suicide is the bulk of gun deaths it’s not the only cause - and so while being even more fully informed is helpful, I don’t agree that the warning is misleading in any way, I’d argue it remains just as factual.
It also doesn’t have to be either or: it can be both a mental health crisis and a gun crisis.
I’m also not unilaterally anti-firearm; I enjoy long distance marksmanship and hand loading precision cartridges quite a bit. That said, I understand the choices I’m making and the risks that come with them; taking every precaution I can to protect those around me from harm.
Totally agree with you, I mostly take quarrel with OP you were replying to. Yes owning a gun makes you much more likely to die in a gun incident. It opens to door to so many preventable tragedies in your own home. I just feel like that statistic demands the explanation that this includes people who bought a gun with the intention of suicide. It includes all the people who bought a gun with intention to resolve a conflict. It includes the biggest most negligent idiots you know, who will probably be shot by their children in a "tragic" accident. If you're a law abiding, risk mitigating person scared of ICE showing up at your door.... and you'd like a fire arm because that feels tyrannical, I'm gonna say you're gonna be a wee bit better off than the statistic suggests.
IKYK, sounds like we have similar views on firearms in America. Bit of a quagmire innit. Hate watching it be discussed without nuance.