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My go-to question when people defend this shit is to ask them to prove to me they're a citizen on the spot.
Not many people even have a passport, much less carry one at all times.
And even if they can, it doesn't matter as there are reports of ICE agents simply claiming the documents are fake and taking them away anyway.
Pro Tip: for an extra $30, you can get a Passport Card in addition to your passport. It is only valid as a travel document for land and sea travel within North America, but has the same proof of citizenship as a passport book. Everyone who is in the wrong half of the "Peter Griffin in a Fez" scale should carry it on their person at all times.
Yes, the ICE agent will say it's fake, and confiscate it, but at least you can keep your passport book in a safe place for your family to bring to the detention center to try and get you out.
Yeah - I used to carry one. I'm white as a ghost, but I used to drive to Mexico often enough it was worth not having to replace my passport book because it was getting stamped too often.
Do they stamp something to supplement the card? Is that not an option with the passport book?
That card doesn't have to be stamped at all. But it only works on land and sea crossing within North America. So unless you're on a cruise or driving to Mexico or Canada, you still need the book with the stamps.
Thanks for the info. I'm on the okay side, but my wife and kids are not. A redundancy of documentation is the way to go. I just hope it matters and denaturalization doesn't happen.
REAL ID requires proof of citizenship and therefore should be accepted as proof, but these ICE goons aren’t trained and/or don’t care to recognize ID. I have a passport and have it on my iPhone as Digital ID, and I guarantee no one at ICE is equipped with a reader or knows what it is. If I’m ever grabbed by ICE, I expect the only proof that will matter is my neutral American accent.
Real ID does not require proof of citizenship, just proof of legal residence. Digital passport is also not sufficient for law enforcement, just for verification for flights and some commercial establishments.
My bad. I was thinking of my requirements.
You're good just clarifying