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[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The amount of people who's reaction is "ummm it's myth not history sweaty there is no accuracy" as if we don't have boar tusk helmets and the Dendra armor to say nothing of artistic depictions of bronze age stuff not specifically mentioned in the epic.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If it's myth then explain how they found the real city of Troy by following the book's own lore! morshupls

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

My favorite study that came out of this was that they put on Mycaenean armour they found and then followed the diet and battle regime detailed in the Iliad and concluded "yeah this armour works." Experimental anthropology is fun. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0301494

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey I am on the "accurate enough to be using some real history carried down" side of the Homeric question. The chariots being there despite being misused always felt so telling to me that Homer knew somethings needed to be maintained even if he didn't know how they would be used in war.

And yeah fuck Schliemann, but just following the fucking directions two thousand years later is so funny

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hilariously, We've recently discovered that the layers of Troy associated with the late bronze age (VIIa) are located slightly away from the main hill, meaning that the settlement is a bit larger than we thought and more like the stories of Troy. But, and this is the funny part, Schliemann didn't just dynamite his way through the layer he wanted because he though old=good. He dynamited the wrong spot!

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn't he have depression for the rest of his life after realizing his mistake? Serves him right. The Greek and Anatolian people's history was just a playground for his ilk's imagined "western civilization"

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately not, the seriousness of the error was not noticed until the 1930s, although even in the 1870s it was clear he got the wrong layer. Sir Arthur Evans actually was partially inspired to excavate at Knossos out of the fear some other similar amateur might destroy the sight, and while there's a lot to critique about Evans, he was a pretty good excavator for the time (and also surprisingly anti-imperialist for someone who ended up with half of Crete in his museum, he played a strong role in halting a massacre of the local Muslim population and was harshly critical or British-Turkish actions in Crete.)

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah Evans I know was more a problem in reconstruction and coloring our view of what Minoan art "should" look like. Otherwise much better.

Edit: apparently he had a mound and wild garden built during the Great Depression specifically to give work to unemployed workers.