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Episode drops in a few hours (9pm EST) if you're in the western hemisphere. It drops tomorrow at 2am GMT elsewhere.
Episode description: Manousos begins a dangerous trek to meet Carol. Returning home from Las Vegas, Carol gets creative with her rebellion.
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It really bothers me that the plurbs can kill hundreds of millions of people for the sake of infecting the entire human race all at once (and it admits that this could have been done more slowly with fewer casualties), but preventing even more millions in its own collective from starving to death by harvesting (not even killing! Just harvesting! Plants don't die when they are harvested!) any plant life is off-limits. It really takes me out of it actually. Seems like taking over a species and then imposing rules on them (no way this was humanity's own idea) that don't permit them to fulfill such a basic biological imperative is, like, murder. Starving people to death by intentionally not producing food to feed them is murder.
Also don't we have lab grown meats in the present day???? I feel like the collective minds of all of humanity would pretty quickly have that production down to a science if all other motives were absent and the alternative was mass death. Idk this whole "we will literally starve ourselves to avoid harming a plant" thing is introducing a lot of logical silliness and seems more for the sake of creating drama than anything else.
I've lost track of how many times I've watched a show where the bad guy was just doing good guy stuff but then randomly murdered a bunch of people for the plot. It's just
Hegemony. That's really why I'm Pro-Plurb. Carol and Manousous seem like representatives of the "Will there be civil liberties for the Fascists?" Club, imo. 
idk on further reflection, maybe this is the point? Poggy over on yt is doing some pretty compelling theorycrafting. Full vid's worth a watch but I timestamped his theory at the end.
on Poggy's theory
I don't totally buy the "one body" thing; only one body would eventually mean death to the collective as a whole which contradicts the idea of consciousness being equivalent to life by the collective's logic. I do however think he's onto something with goal of the virus (which the hivemind isn't made aware of) being to vastly shrink the human population.I think we're predisposed over here to wanting to see the plurbs as being overall well meaning, and they very well may be (as they cannot lie), but there's definitely gonna some sort of greater evil at play. I just don't think it is Vince's intention to prove Carol wrong. As cool as it would be to see a show where the plurbs really are just innocently wanting to build a better world for humanity and Carol is a critique on the brainworm'd American chauvinist (which I still believe she is, just not in a way that she ends up being totally wrong)
It's also clear to me that the "hivemind" isn't exactly a "hivemind" in the sense that it's a synthesis of all of human consciousness; the virus seems to appropriate each of the infected's skills and knowledge but ultimately exerts huge influence on the the collective's behavior and decision-making, if not total control. Choosing to put plant life over human life, for example, or to produce and consume HDP, is not something in line with the core beliefs of humanity; this is imposed by the virus.
The big issue I'm having is that I'm seeing the Plurb as very much revolution coded. I hear "It was done against people's will, people died" and immediately think "A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part." The Plurb tells us it's shutting power down for efficiency, making sure everyone is getting the nutrients they need, getting junkies clean and I think "The revolution that feeds the children gets my support" BUT then the show says, there's gonna be a famine because The Plurb is too principled or idealistic and I hear, "communism only works in theory, in the real world millions die."
I lived through LOST, I don't know that I care about the ending and show theories, ya know? I'm ruined already. What I care about is what message the story is telling and what hoops people's brains are jumping through to maintain congruency with the story. idk. I don't think I'm gonna be happy regardless.
Much of our ignorance of the Plurb is because we're experiencing it 90% through Carol's eyes and she can't be bothered to get to know the Plurb. There's so much that we don't know and can be filled in at the writers whims simply because Carol's investigations happen in dumpsters instead of just asking. And people are applauding this for some reason. The more I think about it, the more I wonder how long I'll last with the show. It's an interesting premise but as soon as they pulled out the famine bit, well.🤷♂️
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Not only that but the remainders can consent to provide labor. They could work for the plurb doing the things that plurbs can't do. I thought that's where they were going with Zosia saying they would cook a pig if Mr Diebate killed it himself.
I thought they were going to ask Carol and the others do a Richard Matheson thing. If the non plurb do something that they don't know is causing harm, and the plurb aren't the ones directly causing the harm, then there is no problem for their logic. They've shown they can do indirect harm (speeding up P-day causing almost a billion to die) and that they forgive Carol for unknowingly doing harm (killing millions by losing her temper).