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Also vastly fewer cultural and social options. Poor people don't deserve those things, I guess!
Poor people deserve to suffer, is an opinion far too many people hold.
the fact that you made this comparison tells me you are rich
I grew up in a rural area 2 hours city of the city, because it's all we could afford. i had no culture into i got to college.
am i suppose to feel like i was therefore impoverished or something?
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Sounds like yes? You're saying yes. I don't understand your question.
I never felt impoverished until rich people told me i shouldn't be alive because my life doesn't meet there inflated living standards.
Just like my 150K a year salary feels rich to me, and they tell me it's shameful and a poverty wage.
What you don't understand is that you don't get to determine how other people live, or their living standards. They do.
You can feel bad for people like me for 'suffering', but what you don't get is that to us it was never suffering. it was a normal life. If you think my life was impoverished, it's likely because your own was so privledged. and to think anyone who doesn't live their life by your standards is 'less than' you is pure arrogance.
I'm not telling you that you shouldn't be alive. I don't know where you got that from.
I don't understand why you're mad at all here.
Who's telling you that $150k salary is shameful? Are you conflating poverty and shame?
The argument was that cities have more opportunities for cultural and social events. That's undeniably true because those scale directly with the amount of people. A town of 10,000 simply doesn't have the bodies to support a metal scene a punk scene a hip-hop scene and EDM scene all at once. Thus, telling poor people that they must move away from cities is denying them those things. It's saying sorry, you're too poor to participate.
Many people live what seems normal to them but by outside perspectives would be seen as impoverished. No running water. No indoor plumbing. Child labor. Women denied rights. "It was normal to us" is an extremely weak argument.
No, i'm telling you there are many well-off people who think anyone who isn't as rich as them should not exist and view anyone the top 5% of incomes as subhuman scum.
those are the people that go to the cultural events, and they don't want disgusting poor people near them.
ok, you should go down to a poor area and start lecturing those people how they should live their lives. see how they respond.
There are rich people who think the poor should be exterminated, but they're (hopefully) a minority and not likely the people in this thread.
I really don't think those ultra rich snobs are the people going to see a local band play to 75 people in a bar. "Cultural events" doesn't exclusively mean like Opera and Broadway. It's also "three people put out an EP and are playing it live at Stingy Pete's tonight. Tickets are PWYW, $5 recommended"
No one here is lecturing the poor about how to live their lives. The argument was that poor people should be allowed to live in cities, if they desire, in part because there are many nice things that come with living in a city.
poor people never could live in cities. because they have the stuff rich people want, and they push out the poor people.
and the people who live in impoverished neighborhoods in urban areas, also don't have access to any of that.
because those things all require lots of money. where i live opera tickets are cheaper than going to see a local band in a bar. but both are going to be a minimum spend of 50-80 dollars.
Many poor people live in cities.
People who live in poorer parts of New York City, at least, can take a bus or train to other parts.
I don't know where you live but one of the popular bars near me in NYC is $18 for a show tonight. They also have a free DJ show of some sort. A smaller spot that does shows I know of has one for $14. That's just two spots I know off hand. There are many more.
I feel like you're messaging me from some other world. I'm mostly speaking from living in NYC. Where you you speaking from?