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Gonna just say the same thing i said in the megathread for anyone who thinks this is a good idea: 1000s of queer and otherwise marginalized kids are gonna lose the only little bit of community they have away from their shitty parents and "communities"
Came here to say this. The internet has been instrumental in helping many people to understand their own queerness and this kind of access restriction is going to hurt a lot of people.
Yet another violent overreach by the Australian regime
There are always exceptions, but were 'many' marginalized kids really getting any meaningful community in "TikTok, Facebook, Insta, X, Youtube, Snapchat, Reddit, Kick, Twitch and Threads"?
Maybe I'm just old and out of touch
but both now, and as a queer youth, the only kind of community or support I ever found was in forums and chats outside of those huge pointless platforms. Big social media is alienating, full of ragebait and misinformation (especially about queer issues) and exude the sheer opposite of what I'd call "community".
My instinct is that driving youth off those large platforms and will drive them onto smaller, more "actually" communal online spaces, which will be beneficial all around.
Tiktok and reddit both have large trans communities, including smaller groups. It says includes so I wonder if that includes things like discord which do have, again lots of big and small communities. Tons of opportunities to get to know people 1 on 1. Outside of here that's where all my community is.
Question is what communal online spaces, I'm sure we know what, but for kids who are used to the mainstream spaces, how can they go to the communal online spaces? And, you know, legality and all, because even if platforms aren't in Australia, either they get blocked because they don't follow the "law" or have to do the same surveillance to their Australian users..
I think X (Twitter formerly lol), Tiktok and maybe Reddit are stepping stones for these marginalized kids, I still see a lot of queer stuff on those platforms, though it is just because they're popular social media spaces, not necessarily good ones, I mean how'd you'll find out about like the Fediverse (like Lemmy, Mastodon, etc.) for example if it weren't through a Youtube video or Twitter post?
Well, I found out about Hexbear through friends on IRC, but..
There are literally thousands of them. You can start your own for free or less than $50/year depending on what you're looking for and desired scale. You can even find dead empty ones, invite 10 people, and be the only ones using it for weeks. Moderation is probably harder than actually getting started.
Reddit is shit at being a community, but it's far better than being stuck in exclusively Christian nationalist spaces. Even as a right-wing platform, it helped me question my political beliefs and discover my sexuality (which isn't as important now that I'm in an accepting area, but it fucked up my mental health before then), along with finding loads of information relevant to my hobbies, and it's also how I found Lemmy. Lemmy/Hexbear is a much better community, but it doesn't have anywhere near the breadth of information and discussion that Reddit has. Where I live, leftist organizations mostly advertise on Instagram. As far as other productive uses go, Facebook has Marketplace and Groups which can have information that Reddit doesn't, Youtube has tons of educational content, and TikTok/Instagram/Facebook can be helpful for promoting art or skills. I would agree though that in general, the algorithmic feed-driven platforms are horrible for community, and Reddit being infested with bots and paid actors makes it more questionable.
I don't get what teenagers posting semi-anonymously are learning that they can't learn from seeing older queer people post about. A lot of the progress in pushing back homophobia in the 2000s-2010s wasn't kids doing it, it was visibly gay adults.
I made friends I went to my first pride with through these "useless" online platforms.
Remember that people aren't born adults, they actually have to survive to that age. Which is kind of difficult when you are alone.
I am talking about community, not about just "learning". The internet is the only real source of community and friends for many queer youths
You don't get the value of direct social interaction and community participation vs sitting unseen and unheard watching "the adults" have conversations amongst themselves?
Learning and community aren't the same thing, your comment doesn't address her criticism at all.
This is quite the take to be making on a social media site semi anonymously
Hi, I was a kid in the 90s and early 2000's.
The first place I could safely say "I am gay" (spoiler I was not but I only understood straight and gay as things you could be) was usenet of all places.