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Was getting sick of the endless political horseshoe/fishhook/stethoscope left punching memes, so I made this for !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com, crossposting here since most of the emojis are lifted from here
Feel free to roast me or suggest shit to add
I do not actually see a difference in level of authority exerted by the capitalist state or the socialist state.
They are not different, the difference is merely who the state serves and who the state uses its authority against to oppress. The socialist state is essentially just the bourgeois state with power seized and flipped until capital can be defeated.
I suppose in that sense from the proletarian's perspective it is less authoritarian. But from the bourgeoise perspective it is considerably more authoritarian against them.
perfectly put
after sleeping on this, makes me think that I should have put flipped the anarchist and communist positions.
if the value of positive Y correlates with degree of authority used against workers then the negative Y axis should really correspond to degree of authority used against against bourgeois elements.
makes more sense as it is right now though. i think the X axis corresponds better to "authority used vs bourgeois/worker"
Yeah something like that. But in that representation then you'd be putting anarchism somewhere at the center of the authority axis.
Two axis in a class conscious compass could be authority on the Y axis from the prole vs bourgeois perspective and economy on the X axis again from the "for the proles" and "for the bourgeois" perspective.
Socialism with Chinese characteristics would be somewhere in the middle on this axis while full higher-tier communism would be the furthest left.
Bottom right and top left would still be meme ideology.
I actually really like the concept of "for the proles" and "for the bourgeois" being the basis of the axis, it neatly illustrates how socdems are more for the bourgeois than for the proles, both in authority and economy.
Yep, and the degree to which the authority is used depends on the conditions the state finds itself in, not on personal choice. In capitalist decay, fascism rises, in socialism under siege or invasion, you see more violence against reactionary elements. It isn't a personal choice, but a response to material conditions in the direction of the class structure of society.
It turns out that the whole "A left-right spectrum is too reductive, we need a layered matrix of state control and social progress" is actually wrong and all politics does lay more or less on a right-left line
I see the left/right line as correctly interpreting the primary contradiction, class struggle. The furthest right representing the absolute victory of the bourgeoisie and the furthest left representing the absolute victory of the proletariat.
Until that contradiction changes it will remain the basic foundation of politics in our time.
So yeah, it's just a left right line. Dialectical.