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It appears Meta's Horizon Worlds may literally and figuratively not have legs after all.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

VRChat is the most popular “metaverse” and it’s still growing every year.

So it’s weird to call the metaverse dead when Horizon wasn’t even in the lead among its competitors.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

VRChat is not owned by meta, therefore not part of the meta verse.

Metaverse is not the same as VR.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Metaverse is a (imo cringe) term for VR experiences in general, but in particular VR social experiences. Facebook changed their name to Meta specifically to try to brand themselves as the metaverse company, it wasn't the other way around.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

VR is virtual reality. A mode of interacting with 3D space using a head mounted display.

The metaverse is just social VR where you experience a shared 3D space with others in VR headsets. Don’t let Mark fool you into thinking only they make social VR spaces/the metaverse. That’s what he wants. He didn’t invent the term. He just claimed it as his own. And in my opinion, pissed all over it too.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Might as well call Second Life a part of the Metaverse. It isn't, but by your reasoning it would be.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You don’t use VR headsets in SecondLife. It’s a lame flat screen third person thing where you play with dolls.

SocialVR is about embodiment too. Being your avatar. Eye contact. Presence. Third person control of a character model is not the same thing.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, You don't. It is possible, and people do. VR ≠ The Metaverse. VR is used in all sorts of things that have nothing to do with The Metaverse

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I’m not saying all VR is the metaverse. I’m saying SocialVR and the metaverse are the same.

And does the official client for SecondLife support VR now? I thought they abandoned attempts at that.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

No but undeniably the death of the metaverse is taking VR with it, once meta leaves the VR space it will be exclusively for enthusiasts and low quality indie games.

Disagree. Roblox and Fortnite metaverses will continue long after VR disappears.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Valve is releasing a new headset.

People here forget that a likely $700+ headset designed for streaming (let's be honest we have no idea how many games will make native ports) is mostly gonna take off with VR enthusiasts. Like the Index this is an explicitly premium headset.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

VR space it will be exclusively for enthusiasts and low quality indie games.

Good. It'll finally have a fighting chance to be great.

I guess VRChat will still exist but getting into VR will be very difficult

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

once meta leaves the VR space it will be exclusively for enthusiasts and low quality indie games.

I literally never even heard of anything associated with Horizons that wasn't a low-quality cashgrab or some kind of scam.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

I get your point, I genuinely do. But the way the general public uses the term metaverse is to refer to Horizon, not that style of game/app in general.