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No. She is. What are we doing here? While Carol is a complex character with multiple flaws, the argument we see presented by the other survivors are either facile ("I sure do like having a harem!"), or based on information we know to be untrue ("Each instance of the hivemind remains an independent individual"). She gets dinged for not even having asked the hivemind what it's like, but she's pretty obviously not a villain protagonist.
It killed near a billion people to assert itself, it refuses to give people choice in their assimilation and it cannot handle the idea of something not going to the plan to the point of shutting down.
Not to mention think of how viscerally disgusted most of us would be at the prospect of AI bringing our loved one's likeness to life in visual form with the imitation of personality etc. Now think about it in the flesh. Oh laxmi may seem fine with it now but days go by and her son not doing things out of lock step with her whims will get to her and she will move out of the denial stage. This is a mindfuck that no one really is ready for when reality starts to hit because everyone you know is pretty much gone
Pluribussy. (somebody had to say it)
Such a Carol response.
She's so unlikeable but at the same time relatable, I'm really rooting for her but I also find myself saying "Oh Carol, not this again" every couple of scenes.
Did the show actually conclusively prove this is wrong? I took the interaction with the kid to be a failure to prove anything, like sure the kid wouldn't normally know that stuff but reading a book and gaining knowledge from it doesn't de-individuate me. From the information presented, unless I'm missing something, it is feasible that people could still be individuals who are glad to participate in the hive mind.