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[โ€“] ganymede@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

yeh but nah

they infiltrate our environmental groups. legally and illegally coerce us & our our "leaders". have been systematically attacking, undermining & removing funding for renewables & climate research for decades. environmental protesters are "legally" assaulted, kidnapped, beaten & sometimes killed by their hired goons, meanwhile neo-nazis march with impunity.

it's not simply a matter of them offering one alternative and just letting the market decide. they engage in unbelievable levels of corruption, coercion, deception, even genocide to steal natural resources from first nations people.

meanwhile the public, barely keeping their heads above water, exploited, subjugated & worn to the bone, oftimes struggling to survive, make almost the only non-choice they can barely even choose from.

yes the majority are to blame, for alot, but also recall we're talking about an average, likely poorly educated person going up against billion dollar brainwashing machinery (oftimes utilising research paid for with our tax dollars initially performed for therapeutic use, now weaponised in a twisted perversion of their original intent)

like you aren't wrong. but there is alot more to the story.

carlin is certainly on point in his quote you cited, and you are right this is perhaps the most difficult to reconcile aspect.

let us weigh this alongside another poignant quote of his:

The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you.

[โ€“] Hazy@aussie.zone 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The irony being their pov is just regurgitation of propaganda by these companies that consumers are to blame.

[โ€“] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Best we continue to change nothing because what's the point! Here's my credit card fill 'er up please and thanks!

[โ€“] Hazy@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Way to miss the point, good on you! ๐Ÿ˜Š