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It seems reasonable to assume that whatever aspect of human behavior might be born of "nature" rather than environment would be collaborative. Otherwise no society would have gotten off the ground. "Human nature" in this case is just shorthand for that idea.
I certainly wouldn't call any "human nature" immutable, since we've seen that environmental effects can make people do almost anything. My statement in the previous comment would have made no sense if I was referring to "human nature" as immutable, since we've all agreed that the environment of capitalist society causes humans to behave in competitive ways even when they lead to negative outcomes.
Yeah, I see what you mean, actually. I wasn't saying "human nature" was immutable, but the person I was replying to was. And you make a good point that I should have attacked that explicitly in my reply, actually. I'll keep that in mind of next time I run into this (depressingly common) "humans are naturally bad" argument.
You would be correct to do so because Marx himself emphasized that point multiple times