It's all a lot easier too if this is just a socially enforced standard rather than expecting individuals to measure exactly how they should tell an old person to turn their shit down while also being at the limits of their patience and probably not really in a position where it's easy to express themselves in the manner that the other person feel entitled to.

[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

I really do think Americans don't have much concept of public shame. It's the same reason you constantly see people screaming at service industry workers, leaving shopping carts in parking spaces, parking in handicap spot. I had a friend from Eastern Europe who was shocked to find that nobody offered to give their seats up to elderly people on the metro and said in their home country that'd get people threatening to kick you ass.

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

What does "socially enforced" mean, if asking is off the table?