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One thing I've noticed recently, especially talking with libs, is the title basically.

For domestic affairs, even though the overton window is severely limited there is still leeway to say things like "I think we should tax the rich more". (keep in mind I am in kkkanada and we still have some semblance of social democratic ideas in the mainstream here). Or " I think we need more social housing". Now, these are not policies that are actually going to happen, mind you, but you can at least talk about them out in the open and not get spit on.

Foreign policy and international affairs appears to be an entirely different story. Don't you dare suggest any of the following:

  • Ukraine is fully of Nazis

  • Russia has legitimate security concerns on its border

  • We helped overthrow the democratically elected government in Ukraine in 2014

  • Maduro is the rightful, democratically elected (several times) president of Venezuela

  • China actually does a lot of good in the world

  • NATO is an evil terrorist organisation

  • We butchered Libya and turned it into a modern day slave state and we did it on purpose

  • Up until VERY recently, that Israel is doing a Holocaust in Gaza

  • On the global stage, WE are the bad guys. WE are against democracy and human flourishing

These positions are simply not allowed to be had, and certainly not stated in the mainstream. If you dare state any of these things you get dog-piled, swarmed, yelled at, hated. Maybe there are some fringes on either side of the political spectrum that can mutter these things to ourselves, but god help you if you say any of these things to normies.

There is some leeway with shifting global events (for example, since Trump threatened us with annexation it has of course become much more acceptable to criticise and even openly despise the Burger Reich) but for the most part, public opinion is in solid lock step with the interests of the federal government, and more broadly the interests of the international ruling class.

Maybe neither here nor there, but just something that I've noticed recently.

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[โ€“] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Like I've said on my own behalf, it's hard to have a good opinion on things when your education was so lacking that you don't have half a clue what's even going on. On what basis could anyone hope to construct any alternative opinion? Maybe if they have a friend who's from a place and took the time to explain some political situation but then you're just going along with some rando person's take on a country they left for one reason or another.

you get dog-piled, swarmed, yelled at, hated

srsly bud? u got swarmed? rly?

[โ€“] sexywheat@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

Figuratively speaking.