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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump is a brilliant politicaian. I hate the ground the man walks on, but don't discount his political skills. He has stronger political instincts than almost every politician alive in America today. He can be evil while also being a great politician. You see his politics and conclude he doesn't know what he's doing. But you are simply not his target audience.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I disagree, he is a terrible politician but an excellent demagogue.
People seem to confuse the idea of getting people to vote for you as the only requirement for being a good politician, but that is definitely not true.
To be a good politician, you need to also be able to improve conditions in the country,and create acceptance of the policies, and as president to be able to cooperate with congress for the good of the country, and to not be corrupt is pretty high up there in requirements too.

I have no idea how anyone can call Trump a good politician???

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You're confusing being a good politician with being a good leader or representative. Being a politician is all about winning elections. The man can't lead the country worth a shit, but he can get elected.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No what you are describing isn't even really a politician, but just a demagogue.
A demagogue makes promises to win an election, a politician work to deliver on the promises, and help make things better.

A politician is a person who participates in policy-making processes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician

Winning an election is only a means to become a politician, not the end.

Politicians make decisions, and influence the formulation of public policy.

Exactly the parts I described as determining whether a politician is good or bad.

A more formal definition:

Politician: 1: a person experienced in the art or science of government especially: one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government. 2a : a person engaged in party politics as a profession.[1]

So contrary to what you claim, not at all about campaigning or election by any definition, but the actual work that is done AFTER an election.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

In fairness, all his opponents were centrists who no one liked. Biden barely beat him and that was only after promising a bunch of things that he never intended to do.