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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/48813307

!!! IF YOU ARE AN EU CITIZEN, PLEASE DO THE FOLLOWING FORM !!!

https://fightchatcontrol.eu/#contact-tool

Be especially sure to select your home country's permanent representation in the Committee, but selecting everyone the website proposes is a very good idea (and done by default).

Raise your voices and flood their inbox, this might be the last chance we ever get

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Patrick Breyer's warning about this from 2 days ago

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[–] Obin@feddit.org 63 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Denmark not only supports it, it's the one country that pushes the hardest for it, and did from the start. Which seems weird from my German perspective, because I wouldn't exactly associate Denmark with a police-state, quite the opposite actually, especially compared to Germany.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 days ago (7 children)

the europeans on lemmy continue to insist that americans are ahead of the fascism game; but we still don't have chat control and have only elected one fascist so far. lol

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

but we still don't have chat control

Who needs chat control when you have the Patriot Act and PRISM?

[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think electing him twice should count for something.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

that's fair. lol

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At much harder the second time.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Every single swing county supposedly went the same way, there's a county in New York where Harris supposedly had zero votes- despite locals claiming they did.

Alot of sus

[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Mate, USA is way ahead in fascism. EU isn't openly disappear / deporting people yet. EU has healthcare, mostly.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure fascist already broke off the UK. While I will agree the US is ahead, it is everywhere already.

This is a worldwide problem unfortunately.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

This is the moment when “Socialism or Barbarity” is decided. We can either organize, and throw off the chains of capitalism, or we can succumb to the fascist order that the owning class wants.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

try saying that you support palestine action publicly in the uk. lol

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know the UK isn't in the EU anymore right?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

yes and that's why i said europe and not the eu

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You absolutely are ahead of the fascist game, so far ahead that your billionaires are funding European fascists and emboldening them.

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Only one? Do all if the bootlickers in the house and the senate, as well as JD vance not count?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

While we have problems here in Europe and they're concerning, the US really has this shit on a whole 'nother level. The NSA more or less has ALL the data that enters or exits the country and probably most of what goes around public networks (so just about any ISP) within the country. Your Lemmy instance is hosted in France and from your comment I infer that you're American (so likely situated in the US), so most likely the communication between you and the instance is all recorded and stored at 33 Thomas Street. They're just storing everything so they can decrypt it if quantum computing breaks existing algorithms. Then there's all the tooling the CIA and NSA have built to spy on everyone who has any even somewhat insecure smart device.

Denmark is trying to legislate all this into happening, the US just ignores legislation when something actually disagrees with their spying

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Barring civilians from using encryption and software deemed dangerous is a new level imo. These are the tools we have to fight this stuff, maintaining those rights is a big deal.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

Oh I agree. If encryption becomes illegal I may actually move to another freaking continent. I have nothing to hide, but I am still not willing to compromise on privacy and security.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago

it's not that they're ignoring it; is that the legistlation doesn't address buying it from non-government agencies and probably on purpose.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Name one world leader except Trump that can make the stock market crash by speaking... :)

We dont have any big leaders in Europe that most people know by name even.

Its all talk about Trump, Musk, Zuckerberg over here too. Like mini America. There is nobody here who is saying anything people care about. We dont even know their names.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

We dont even know their names.

that's surprising to learn since the likes of farage, le pen have & hocke heavily influencing politics in the uk, france & germinay and meloni winning her election in italy.