this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2025
315 points (97.3% liked)

News

33138 readers
3159 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Technically I think most words were invented by racists.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ur right^^ but most were not invented specifically to promote racisms

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is that kind of hill that some progressives try to die on that serves absolutely no good and just perpetuates the stereotype that the left is full of "thought police" and want to make laws about words.

Let's focus this energy against enemies, and there are plenty.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Would you say the same about the n-word? This is the exact same argument people used to make when the efforts of getting rid of its frequent use started growing.

I dont see the point of not making informative statements in an already progressive bubble. How would you suggest I "focus the energy against enemies" in a lemmy thread aboud weed?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It's absolutely not the same, one word offends a lot of people broadly because it signals how you feel about them, and the other doesn't do that, the other is a word that people of all races and backgrounds use and is never used as a signal from people to show how they feel about a race or minority group, at least not in the modern world. Nobody is going to call you a racist for using the word marijuana... except if we start cycling what you're saying here, in this bubble of dry kindling and impressionable minds looking to police each other, then there WILL be debates about the word, and it will continue to bleed into other spaces and make leftists infight because it's a stupid thing to try to chastise people about, and it will become another performative issue that makes people roll their eyes at activism in general.

Honestly I wouldn't bring it up at all. If you're not in an etymology discussion, what good do you POSSIBLY expect to come from educating people about this? What is your end-goal? Do you actually think it's worth the energy of even trying to get people to change their language for no good reason when it serves no real good or have any real benefits?

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Youre right, its not the same kind of term. Its the same argument though, thats what I said.

what good do you POSSIBLY expect to come from educating people about this?

Not sure if youre serious about passing on knowledge being useless, but Ill bite. I am simply basing it off my own efforts to avoid using problematic language. I very much appreciate people telling me when I use words like that and why they are problematic, so that I can potentially avoid them in the future.

Let me ask you the same: What do you expect to gain from me not educating people about the origins of the term? From people still connecting crime to minorities through language invented by racists for propaganda?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What do you expect to gain from me not educating people about the origins of the term?

Educate people all you want, in the proper context. You know VERY WELL that someone was going to try to push back on it here because you want to have a debate with someone and are too scared to face down actual conservatives in conservative spaces about their ACTUAL racism.

I am extremely frustrated with leftists online bickering about MOTHERFUCKING TONE AND WORDS that don't hurt anyone because someone, somewhere, who isn't even effected by said words, started saying it was problematic, BECAUSE MY COUNTRY IS COLLAPSING AND YOU SHITS ARE BEING PERFORMATIVE.

That's it, I'm done, I will never see another message from you because you're stubborn and I don't have time nor patience, I have dozens of accounts across different platforms for scolding dumb shits and promoting unity and direction forward towards common goals. You decide in silence if you have any responsibility and accountability to help keep our collected ideological group focused on the right concerns while our constitution burns.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Not sure where youre going with your immature accusations and name calling. I can understand that you are angry, but maybe you should direct your anger at the people who deserve it instead of a neutral piece of information.

I never called anyone racist or accused them of anything and it hurts me that you keep putting words into my mouth and accusing me of ill intent when I didnt have any. I shared an info that someone once shared with me which I was thankful for, I wanted to do the same. Sorry it offended you so badly.