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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There actually might not be that much Azov left at this point, because they've been used as a fire brigade to try and plug the holes in the front. The latest being Pokrovsk. So, they never really get any relief, and they suffer increasingly high losses as a result. Breaking the army is the goal in a war of attrition, and most of the highly motivated fighters are dead after nearly four years of fighting. Incidentally, I saw a vid just recently of somebody from Azov complaining how it's not the same as it was at the start because new recruits are just not as motivated.

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I still think the azov new recruits are still Nazis. I think they just know they're going to lose the war and they have to hide it more for the west.

Azov is also seeing foreign Nazi recruits who using NATO training and experience plan on causing terror attacks back in the west

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are, but they also a bunch of broken and demoralized nazis at this point. I do think Ukrainian fascists turning on the west is a very real scenario though. Right wing is having a huge surge in all the major European countries, and the fascist networks have obviously been working with Ukraine. Even CBS reported at one point how something like 70% of the weapons sent to Ukraine go missing, and I would bet money a lot of them ended up in fascist cells in Europe. There's also the whole betrayal narrative taking hold in Ukraine. The west made a lot of promises it didn't keep, and now Ukrainians are realizing they got played.

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think regardless my Ukrainian Taliban theory will end up true regardless. I think this is too similar to the 80s

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't really see any parallels between Ukraine and Afghanistan myself. I expect a far more likely scenario is Germany after the end of WW2 or Chechnya more recently.

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ukrainian Nazis have a clear internationalist mindset and are being sent millions of weapons and dollars by the US and European governments.

I think it's similar to how the US ended up finding Al Qaeda and shit.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean we'll see soon enough, but they tried same sort of thing in Chechnya and that failed.

[–] CitizensTyrant@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look up the centuria project. These people hate the EU and the West only slightly less than they hate Russia. Once the war with Russia is over they will 100% turn on the west. It's a part of their entire schtick. They want a "paneuropean" brotherhood to be established in place of the EU. In other words, they want to create a white super state across Europe. They may not be religious fundamentalists like the taliban, but they have all of the hallmarks of a grassroots terrorist organization willing to use violence on anyone and everyone. And now, they've got the weapons to back them up.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago

That's very much my expectation as well. I think once they realize they got used by the west, there are going to be reprisals.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ukrainian Nazis have a clear internationalist mindset

What signs do you see for that?

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They recruit for azov from everywhere. There are Norwegian, American, British, German, etc neo Nazis fighting with them in the war getting training and connections.

This didn't start with the war, it began earlier.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My impression was that international recruits are sent to the frontline

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

It depends, some are western liberals who are sent.

Some are western neo Nazis who join azov, join the azov ranks and fight in azov foreign divisions.

For instance the group of azov that broke into Russia awhile back was actually made up of Russian neo Nazis which works under azov.

They think Putin is woke and gay and not Hitler enough for them so they joined azov.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Azov is also seeing foreign Nazi recruits who using NATO training and experience plan on causing terror attacks back in the west

this is the first time i'm hearing of this and surprised since the west is going pro-fascist anyways.

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

A guest on true anon spoke about it weeks ago