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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And it wasn’t even about it going on the ground or whatever it was about him failing his duty to impregnate his brother’s widow, which was expected of him. Sounds bizarre today but due to the rules of inheritance at that time, it was considered a service to the widow.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Came to say, Onan was commanded to impregnate her. The story has zero to do with masturbation.

Neither atheists nor believers get the basic mythology of their region.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nu uh, next thing you are going to say is "If a man also lie with mankind" isn't about homosexuality.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not homosexuality as we would understand it. The Hebrew Bible doesn’t understand consensual male-on-male sex as being a thing. It’s envisioning the Bronze Age practice of raping men you defeat in war. The idea of someone being homosexual and having consensual gay sex would be alien to the ancient Hebrews.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Homosexuality has always existed. It was never an issue until Christians made it one.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People being attracted to the same gender have always existed, but the social identity of being “homosexual” or “gay” has not always existed. The ancient Hebrews would not have understood it to be possible for men to have consensual desires for each other. Often times throughout western history, male same sex desire was understood as an “excess” of sexual desire. It wasn’t understood that you could be exclusively attracted to the same sex - the idea did not exist in our cultural milieu until the 19th century.

Christianity is not the only religion that is anti-gay. A Buddhist might have a similar understanding to that western ancient/medieval understand of homosexuality I described earlier - that it is a harmful excess of sexual desire and hampers one’s progress towards separateness from the world. Confucianism would see exclusively same sex attraction as being harmful towards one’s obligation to continuing a family line.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There is nothing in the Dharma about homosexuality and Buddhist are generally accepting of it. Confucianism is not against it either, just the concept of not procreating as your duty to family.

Christians, on the other hand, have been putting homosexuals to death for a long time. I think my original point stands.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Buddhist sexual proscriptions ban homosexual sexual activity and heterosexual sex through orifices other than the vagina, including masturbation or other sexual activity with the hand. Buddhist proscriptions also forbid sex at certain times - such as during full and half moon days, the daytime, and during a wife's menstrual period or pregnancy - or near shrines or temples. Adultery is considered sexual misconduct, but the hiring of a female prostitute for penile-vaginal sex is not, unless one pays a third party to procure the person.

From a "Buddhist point of view," lesbian and gay sex "is generally considered sexual misconduct," the Dalai Lama told reporters at a press conference a day earlier.

How many predominantly Buddhist countries have legalized gay marriage?

While there may be nothing the Buddha said about homosexuality, actual Buddhist practice and belief is not solely based on textual sayings in the Pali Canon.