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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's honestly been incredible to watch how the whole our freedumbs make us different narrative fizzled at the first signs of public discontent in the west.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's happened so fast too, they've very rapidly gone from accusation to demonstrating their own projection. Almost everything they accuse others of concerns me because it's something that's clearly been on their minds.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, I honestly expected there would be more public push back in the west just because the whole freeze peach thing has been drilled into people as the core western value. So, all of a sudden people finding out that far worse things are happening in their own societies than anything that's been thrown at China, and they just shrug about it.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think people don't believe it's a problem until they personally feel it, and the only places they personally feel anything like that are social media online where they get censored or banned or temp banned for a period of time and that all gets blamed on liberalism, the solution to that experience becomes needing more conservatism. The rest they don't really have a personal experience with so it's less real.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I very much agree, when something is abstract it's easy to ignore and focus on things that are more immediately relevant to them. Conservatism also has the benefit of neatly fitting with all the tropes people internalize, so it's an easier transition from liberalism than going left.