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I'm trying to think of a place I want to visit less than the USA, I mean North Korea is a given.
I would love to visit the DPRK. Wtf do you have against it?
my only reservation about visiting the DPRK is how shit the atlanticist-angloid regimes would treat me on my return.
You know I completely missed which community this was. Let's just agree that your perspective and mine will never align on certain topics and leave it on an amicable note.
Why wouldn't you want to visit North Korea?
You know I completely missed which community this was. Let's just agree that your perspective and mine will never align on certain topics and leave it on an amicable note.
I think placing the DPRK as the only place you'd want to visit less than the US, is pretty fucked up. I'll put now, if it helps you be willing to talk to me, that I don't "support" the DPRK (whatever that means), and think it's a fairly normal liberal democracy (though as an outsider I'm rather limited on what info I can access on the DPRK). You don't have to think the DPRK is "socialist" to recognise that they've been subjected to brutal imperialist aggression, are not a worldwide imperialist power like the US is, and generally the only reason I can see for placing them as literally the only country beneath the US is just imperialist propaganda. I think these conversations can get mixed up with conversations about "AES" but it should be important to be able to look at the DPRK as an imperialised country entirely separate to the "AES" discussion, in which context it should be quite obvious how it's fucked up to compare them to the country that invaded them and killed a huge portion of the population.
I have nothing but sympathy for the country as it was the victim of imperialist games being.played by much larger nations. However I am already outspokenly critical of the government of my own country where some legal safety nets exist to protect me from government reprisals. I am not the sort of person who could easily remain uncritical of an authoritarian regime, visiting would likely be bad for my health.
I am not basing this on being propagandised to or swallowing a line, I am basing it on a series of conversations I had with a Korean I found sincere and believable, certainly to a greater extent than randoms on here.
I have deep seated reservations with the Kim family, I don't blame the people of North Korea for them but I personally would not visit without radical social change.
Ironically this is EXACTLY the stance I take on the USA and the Trump family, which I am sure a lot of people in this community would agree with.
My point was not about the presence or lack thereof of "authoritarianism", but the comparison of the DPRK to the US. If it were only about "authoritarianism" then there are plenty of other countries very widely considered "authoritarian".
I think you're rather missing the point as USAmericans do participate heavily in US imperialism, and reap the rewards of US imperialism. There is no North Korean imperialism to speak of, on the other hand.
You quite literally are you just don't even know it, proven by the fact that you whined about which community you were in after getting pushback from people and then decided you were never going to change your mind on it.
No investigation, no right to speak.
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Yeah you got me there, which is a shame because I have heard good things about the culinary scene as it's such a mixing pot of different regional and cultural influences. That goes no way towards wanting to show any level of support for the regime or the state though.
gonna try a plate of authentic israeli pizza and authentic israeli enchiladas
You and I define mixing pot radically differently.
it's an ethnostate which is almost the opposite of a mixing pot
The cuisine that gets claimed as "Israeli" is either from the Levant predating Israel's existence, or just diaspora Jewish food. Nothing comes to mind as actually originating-in-Israel "Israeli" food, though I'm sure some settler has come up with some dish at some point since 1948.
I don't claim the cuisine is Israeli, I had a friend who went to Israel in the 90s and remarked that there were places where she could get food from just about anywhere in the world, usually prepared by people from that region. It's a shame that such a diverse culinary experience is something I will never experience as I never want to visit the country for reasons of culture, religion, politics etc.
Immigration has made it so that there are loads of places on Earth you can go to have loads of cuisines. Most big cities for instance have migrant populations from nearly every (if not every) country and will have restaurants etc representing those communities.
I can think of many better places to enjoy varied cuisine
You'd be surprised tbh, they don't have obnoxious billboards everywhere in Pyongyang
The DPRK doesn't do this shit. Objectively speaking they are less dystopian than the US.