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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Let's see Your fucking AI flip burgers.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Seems relatively easy? You don't even need a full ass robot, just a robot arm with sensors. No one gives a shit about fast food quality anyway.

Heck, this happened before the AI boom

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But that arm and its maintenance costs more than a minimum wage

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And it can't rapidly switch tasks and make adjustments on the fly. Or stock it's one grill or.....

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

True, but its not far off. I ran the math on minimum wage, the machine costs $2000 a month for maintance, whereas full time at minimum wage is 1200 a month. If the employee makes more than $12/h the machine would cost less for maintance. That is ignoring the upfront cost of $20,000-$30,000, but the nature of fast food with its low employee retention and high burnout rate means the upfront costs would likely be worthwhile for companies like mcdonalds. Not having to go through the hiring process would save a fair bit of money id imagine, though i have no clue how much.

Its also worth noting that these machines are way more expensive than they need to be, because they are kept artificially high because the payoff for buying one is so large. Companies REALLY want automation, and theyre willing to pay top dollar to get it because it means they dont need slaves anymore. Same with the maintance, there is about a zero percent chance it legitimately costs the maintance company anywhere in the astronomical ballpark of $2000 a month to maintain the machines.

[–] n0respect@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

We can also factor in the machine can work 24/7, even if its just 1 customer at 330am. In any case, McDs near me starts at $14 or 15.
Test stores will pop up in a year or 2 I imagine.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This is shortsighted of them. Fast food service is not that simple. There’s a lot to manage. The understanding of workers as “burger flippers” is a gross misconception of human nature.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"flipping burgers" is a colloquialism for fast food work. It involves a lot more than rotating patties on a grill.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

McDonald's doesn't even flip burgers. They use a two sided grill with a timer.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wendy's does it like that, and Burger King has a little conveyor belt and the patty gets blasted with fire as it goes through.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That sounds like a more reasonable automation than a robot arm.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i am eager to see the new laser cooked burgers. whenever they invent them

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Lasers in a McDonald's: the new frontier in OSHA violations

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Which is kinda funny since I think that's kinda how Hamburg steaks were often cooked historically. The grill was used for hamburgers once it became more common since the actual oven grill thing was too expensive or complex.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago

its also a euphamism, and insult for people who had a degree who hasnt found a job in thier field too.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Is that robot about to flip a burger cheese-side down?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you even need a robot arm for that? Just have the gridle be on both sides of the burgers (and have like a locking mechanism or something. Kinda like a waffle machine) and then just attach a motor to it that periodically rotates it. Then a timer for when it's done

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But how do you put the cheese on top a minute before it's done?

[–] Emi@ani.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

There already are robots for flipping burgers. If you prepare the burgers for them and place them on GBE grill and then assemble the burger.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

2029-30 How many burger flipping robots do you want...

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

2031 How come no one is buying burgers from my fully automated burger joint?