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[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Here? Bicycles. Super weird how weird people are about bikes and bike lanes here. Spreading the joy of a non-commodified fun-as-fuck method of transportation often provokes some truly reactionary energy here.

[-] Killercat103@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Biking is based. The benefits far outweight the cons compared to the other private transport we have today. I thought the hate was almost exclusive to cars from what I've seen which is understandable. At least in comparison to bikes.

Pedestrians hate us too. Drivers want us off the road, pedestrians want us off the paths. We are welcome nowhere.

[-] theKalash@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pedestrian here, can confirm. Cyclists are the worst.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago

Knowing that there are motorists out there who will maliciously put your life at risk because you're on a bicycle is insane to me.

I remember this one motorist who as a hillarious joke would almost run me over. Not a fan of his

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Comedy is subjective though...

yes I'm sure he found it a lot more funny than I did.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not a very polished set, but he's persistent.

[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Super weird how weird people are about bikes and bike lanes here.

redditors are the worst about it. If you post in your town's subreddit about bike lanes, all the landlords crawl out of the woodwork to talk shit about bicycles and go on paranoid rants about how drivers are oppressed by bike lanes.

[-] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 5 points 1 year ago

Here's the problem: for the average consumer, more than five minutes of exercise in a bicycle is apparently excruciatingly painful.

[-] Kevin11 1 points 1 year ago

Who doesn't like bicycles? I mean, cyclists are often very reckless, dangerous people on the road, and bike lanes are sometimes more of a safety hazard.

Bikers get a lot of hate because a lot of them act like pedestrians. (i.e. riding on sidewalks, crosswalks, not stopping at stop signs, not signalling turns or shoulder-checking) But then if you do all of that dumb law-abiding stuff like some kind of responsible citizen, people in cars honk at you, give you their right of way, or worse!

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

found the truck driver who tries to kill every cyclist they see

[-] Kevin11 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm a cycling instructor. I teach people how to cycle safely and in accordance with laws.

Have a lovely day, thanks for your input. I'm happy someone was ready to discuss with me!

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

you really think someone would do that? just go on the internet and tell lies?

[-] Kevin11 1 points 1 year ago

I don't follow, sorry.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

cyclists would not need to do those things if there was proper infrastructure and if car drivers weren't out to kill them.

making bikes come to a complete stop is less safe because of the acceleration curve of a bike, if the way is clear it's safer the cyclist and anyone else around for the cyclist to maintain speed

[-] Kevin11 1 points 1 year ago

Regardless, the law states that a vehicle must stop at a stop sign. Bikes are considered vehicles, and thus must come to a complete stop.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

the law doesn't determine what is safest, physics does.

the law also varies by jurisdiction and in some places having cyclists treat stop signs like yields rather than full stops is the law.

[-] Kevin11 1 points 1 year ago

Really? I didn't know that! Where I'm from it's different. That's good to know, thank you! Have a lovely day, and stay safe out there.

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, cyclists are often very reckless, dangerous people on the road

you should try interacting with cars as a pedestrian or cyclist. There are people driving on the roads now that I wouldn't trust to safely ride in a pram let alone use of heavy machinery at high speed in a public area based on a test they did years ago. If car use was held to the same standard as safely using heavy machinery in an industrial environment a lot of people who drive now wouldn't be let near a car. It's like people think they have a god given right to operate heavy machinery despite having no ability (or inclination) to do so safely and doing it around children

also bikes don't actually have turn signals and when you use your arm to signal it means you have less control of the bike while you do it

[-] Kevin11 1 points 1 year ago

That's why you have to practice signalling so that you can maintain control over the bike while signalling. It's tricky, though, especially for less experienced cyclists. Have a lovely day and thanks for the insight!

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I ride on the sidewalk when I can because I do not want to be run over by some frothingfash in a truck with a 12" lift who's infuriated by having to see a bicycle

[-] Kevin11 1 points 1 year ago

I can understand that. I know that the laws (and road conditions) differ from place to place. Where I'm from, sidewalk riding is restricted to younger people, and so as a cycling instructor, I cannot advise my students to ride on the sidewalk, as it would be dangerous to pedestrians.

Thanks for your perspective, though! I hope you have a lovely day and most importantly, stay safe out there!

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

"Who doesn't like bicycles"

proceeds to list every bullshit anti bicycle talking point I've ever heard

Damn those entitled cyclists acting like they're entitled to use the road without getting run over.

[-] Kevin11 1 points 1 year ago

As a cycling instructor, I've been honked at, verbally harassed, and flipped off more times than I can count. The reason I know the anti-bicycle talking points is because my job is to discourage people from becoming like that.

Sorry if it wasn't clear in my comment! Have a lovely day and thank you! Your response made me laugh.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love riding my bike, but one thing I and everyone else heavily disagree on is riding in the street. You can tell me it's safer (somehow) than the sidewalk until you're blue in the face, I'm not doing it and I certainly don't feel safer doing it, and I'm definitely going to be pissed at anyone doing it in a road I'm trying to drive down.

Edit: I almost forgot the carried over thing from Reddit where anything ambiguous is automatically the worst possible extreme, so I want to clarify that "being pissed" is just complaining to myself in my car, I'm not going to commit vehicular manslaughter because someone's in the road on their bike.

[-] 8000mark@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Riding on the sidewalk endangers pedestrians (especially children and people with disabilities). Crossing an intersection that has cars coming from the right is also unsafer because you enter drivers' the field of view much later (than if you're on the street) and at a higher velocity (than a pedestrian). If you are riding a car please accept that in the most places in the industrialized part of the world, bicyclists have exactly the same right to use the street (according to local regulations of course).

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

You would be pissed at cyclists who are actually on the road where they are supposed to be unless there is a cycle path...?

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. More on this at 11.

[-] Lols@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

ill take your seething over a fine lol

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

A fine? What dystopian hellhole do you live in? Where I live in Indiana, almost no one rides in the street, always on the sidewalk, the only people ever riding in the street are those dorks in full underarmor outfits that revolve their entire life around being a bike owner. No one gets fined for riding in the sidewalk here, and I'm honestly horrified that that's a thing anywhere.

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