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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 68 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Fed rate cut remains the best predictor of China cutting a deal with the US (no pun intended).

I don’t know what other news mega heads think, but I am starting to believe that there is a lot of truths in my hypothesis.

Let’s recap. Back in January when Biden wanted to ban TikTok, I wrote this:

Just last month, Fed’s Powell released more mixed signals, citing uncertainty in inflation and said that the Fed may only cut once or twice in 2025. Of course, interest rate has very little to do with inflation in the US, but it should be seen as an imperialist tool that controls foreign economies.

So Trump has a lot of leverage here: if he can get the Fed to cut more rates this year, then the PBOC can also cut their rates, this will then allow the local governments to borrow at an even lower interest to pay back their outstanding debt, and thus bringing huge relief to their current budgetary situations. Here, you can see how the Fed’s interest rate directly impacts China’s local government finances.

This is just one weapon the US can use. Tariffs, sanctions, interest rates are all “threats” that can be negotiated down if China gives in to what the US wants. What we will have to wait and see is how Trump and Xi deal with these issues in their ensuing negotiations.

On September 15th, China sold TikTok. The following day, the Federal Reserve cut its key rate for the first time of the year.

Last month, when China imposed rare earth export restrictions, I wrote this:

The US has no choice but to negotiate. China showed just how difficult it is for Trump to decouple from itself. The is a lesson that Trump will continue to have to learn until he concedes the point.

However, China also cannot keep going with this because it cannot afford to see inflation going up in the US. This is because China has huge local government debt that desperately needs the Fed to lower its interests, way more than what was done last month.

On October 29th, the Federal Reserve cut its key rate for the second time of the year. Simultaneously, Trump and Xi agreed on a deal after nearly an entire year and at least five rounds of negotiations.

That’s two Fed rate cuts for two biggest US-China deals of the year, happening within 24 hours of one another.

It is becoming clear that China’s maneuvers are centered on lessening the burden on the local government debt level, which must have been taking a heavier toll on the economy than expected.

I’m actually surprised nobody picked up on this, that the Fed rate is an imperialist weapon. Too many people (both mainstream and alt media) focus on the trade war aspect between US and China and fail to see that this is actually a financial war in disguise, and the primary target isn’t even China, but Europe and the rest of the Global South exporter countries.

Remember that when Trump first launched the global tariffs back in April, the narrative of the pro-BRICS alt media circle was all about the US is shooting itself on the foot and the rest of the world will just trade with one another without the US.

Well, the exact opposite has happened - that Europe doubled down on its anti-China policy while many Asian exporter countries are scrambling to sign new trade deals with Trump, including South Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia and Cambodia in the last few days.

I had warned back then that this whole decoupling from the US cannot happen without China transitioning into a domestic consumption economy. BRICS has failed to offer any alternative because they all want to run trade surpluses against each other, which is mathematically impossible. As a result, the US consumer market still dictates what happens.

Thankfully, it seems that the Chinese leadership is finally admitting that consumption growth is going to be the priority of the next Five-Year Plan Reuters:

The five-year plan recommendations reaffirmed last week's official remarks that China will increase the proportion of government investment for people's livelihoods and raise the percentage of household consumption of GDP "significantly" over the next five years.

"The allocation of resources will shift more towards consumption, as large-scale expansion of traditional industries and infrastructure has reached its limit," said a policy adviser who spoke on condition of anonymity. "Future investment will focus on high-tech industries and new infrastructure."

China may aim to increase the household consumption rate by about 5 percentage points over the next five years, but policy advisers say it is unclear whether the government will set a specific target in the upcoming five-year plan.

Attempts to boost consumption and related reforms over the past decade have been slow to take root in the real economy. Consumer confidence has remained low because of inadequate social welfare, slowing income growth and a property crisis that has eroded household wealth. The services sector has also taken time to develop.

Whether this can be achieved without the central government running up the deficit, I have my doubts. It will be very difficult to have a meaningful shift towards consumption without resolving the massive wealth inequality problem in the country, which will require the government to run a very high deficit i.e. spends way more than it taxes back. But at least it is going in the right direction.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Agree and disagree.

The rate cuts are coming after trade agreements, which are all happening on China's terms. Does that mean that China is determining the policy of the Federal Reserve? I'm skeptical there's a real mechanism for that since even Trump can't directly set those rate cuts. Instead, I think the Fed is responding to trade negotiations.

Remember that when Trump first launched the global tariffs back in April, the narrative of the pro-BRICS alt media circle was all about the US is shooting itself on the foot and the rest of the world will just trade with one another without the US.

Well, the exact opposite has happened - that Europe doubled down on its anti-China policy while many Asian exporter countries are scrambling to sign new trade deals with Trump, including South Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia and Cambodia in the last few days.

But in terms of actual trade flows, the former is actually what happened. Trade did increase between countries all over the world except for the US's direct European vassals, but they simply don't matter that much anymore. Almost all of those countries you listed have increased trade with China or at least remained flat. India has moved further from the US's trade orbit. Even Argentina is increasing trade with China despite being a puppet on strings for the US. The appearance of "scrambling" does not reflect the real flow of materials and commodities. Per the OECD:

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Vietnam increased by $4.16B (31%) from $13.4B to $17.6B, while imports increased by $382M (4.48%) from $8.53B to $8.91B.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Thailand increased by $1.7B (25%) from $6.79B to $8.49B, while imports increased by $53.3M (1.3%) from $4.1B to $4.15B.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to South Korea decreased by $176M (1.44%) from $12.2B to $12.1B, while imports increased by $528M (3.53%) from $14.9B to $15.5B.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Cambodia increased by $453M (39.9%) from $1.13B to $1.59B, while imports increased by $18.8M (8.62%) from $219M to $238M.

Malaysia's the only one you mentioned that actually decreased:

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Malaysa increased by $997M (13%) from $7.65B to $8.65B, while imports decreased by $3.74B (37.1%) from $10.1B to $6.35B.

And we can look at others:

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of India to China increased by $215M (21.6%) from $999M to $1.21B, while imports increased by $127M (1.18%) from $10.8B to $10.9B.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Chinese Taipei increased by $1.12B (17.5%) from $6.4B to $7.52B, while imports decreased by $1.16B (5.76%) from $20.2B to $19B.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Pakistan increased by $335M (20.2%) from $1.65B to $1.99B, while imports increased by $33.1M (16.5%) from $201M to $234M.

Iran unfortunately was a big decline all around:

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Iran decreased by $38.9M (6.39%) from $609M to $570M, while imports decreased by $95.7M (26.7%) from $358M to $263M.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Bangladesh increased by $385M (25%) from $1.54B to $1.92B, while imports increased by $39.9M (44.1%) from $90.4M to $130M.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of Kazakhstan to China increased by $736M (57.1%) from $1.29B to $2.02B, while imports increased by $204M (8.89%) from $2.29B to $2.49B.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Uzbekistan increased by $467M (46.5%) from $1.01B to $1.47B, while imports increased by $33M (16.7%) from $198M to $230M.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of China to Kyrgyzstan increased by $228M (12.5%) from $1.82B to $2.05B, while imports increased by $153M (129%) from $118M to $271M.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of Tajikistan to China increased by $10.1M (46.7%) from $21.6M to $31.7M, while imports decreased by $47M (14.6%) from $323M to $276M.

Between August 2024 and August 2025 the exports of Indonesia to China increased by $1.86B (32%) from $5.83B to $7.69B, while imports increased by $793M (12.3%) from $6.45B to $7.24B.

I could go on. The data demonstrates that the BRICS boosters were, basically, correct in their assertion, although of course nothing is ever as dramatic as the hype men make it out to be. Now, I think I know how you'll respond - that China is dumping commodities that would have gone to the US on these countries, but it's not sustainable. However, I don't think that's accurate either. Take a look at where China's export growth was:

The increased export values [China's overall exports] were particularly notable for Integrated Circuits ($4.38B, 32.7%), Commodities not elsewhere specified ($1.89B, 23.3%), and Cars ($1.68B, 19.6%).

Versus its trade with the US:

The main areas of Chinese export growth are not in the commodities it sold to the US but commodities it bought from the US! And these are mostly very high value add, high complexity commodities that the world outside of the US and Europe are just not capable of producing at scale. And they're essential components of economic development for those countries. China's not exporting vast quantities of clothes and cheap plastic garbage, but instead the necessary pieces for countries to build up their own productive capacity.

Agreed on your whole final section about consumption/five year plan/etc.

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm skeptical there's a real mechanism for that since even Trump can't directly set those rate cuts.

There isn’t. I don’t want to imply that some institutions are independent of the control of the bourgeoisie, but the Fed has some fairly robust protections of its independence (an independence which in the grand scheme of things, serves the interests of the bourgeoisie anyway). That doesn’t mean that Trump can’t have folks roll up to Powell and threaten his position or his safety if he doesn’t comply, but that seems like a stretch to think he would do this at Trump’s behest for China when he wouldn’t do what Trump demanded earlier w/r/t rates.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Agreed. The fact that it’s Scott Bessent, a finance guy who was also a key player of George Soros’s team that engineered the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis, running the trade war and negotiations really show that it’s the finance capitalists that are running the show.

I highly doubt that they will give Trump what he wants re: re-industrialization other than using it as a leverage for the US to reconfigure the global supply chain through financial takeovers by killing the exporter economies in Europe and in the Global South.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Again, quoting my favorite statistics from China’s custom office:

Jan-Sep Total Year-on-year change:
ASEAN Total: Export +14.7% Import -0.4%
RCEP Total: Export +9.9% Import -0.4%
Belt and Road Total: Export +11.4% Import -2.3%

BRICS partners:
Brazil: Export -3.3% Import -6.8%
Russia: Export -11.3% Import -7.7%
India: Export +12.9% Import -2.3%
South Africa: Export +3.8% Import -1.2%

You will see that China’s export to all those regions have generally grown (and even negative in some major BRICS partners) but imports have been negative, suggesting that China is dumping its export surplus goods to the other regions, especially the EU (Export +10.5%, Import -3.8%) and effectively destroying the EU’s green tech and EV industries there.

For many exporter economies, that means further trade deficit against China and they will have to compensate for that by ramping up the export of their goods elsewhere, to America, for example.

The figures you quoted for those countries do not explain how else are those countries going to improve their trade surplus (current account) from their worsening trade deficit with China, where running a trade surplus for those countries who have bought into the IMF export-led growth strategy is a core aspect of neoliberal free trade economics. In other words, they have no choice but to appease the US even more in order to gain access to the US consumer market.

Again, you can see that without a strong domestic consumption economy, China’s vast industrial capacity is essentially the mercantilistic weapon wielded by the US to destroy the industries in the rest of the world and reshapes it under its new interests, as evident by the many countries signing trade deals with Trump.

And I have said this before, if China fails to transition into domestic consumption economy, the Belt and Road Initiative will effectively become a new supply chain built by the Chinese, but gifted to the Americans.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The rate cuts are coming after trade agreements, which are all happening on China's terms. Does that mean that China is determining the policy of the Federal Reserve? I'm skeptical there's a real mechanism for that since even Trump can't directly set those rate cuts. Instead, I think the Fed is responding to trade negotiations.

You are assuming that the White House has no advanced information from the Fed about their key rate policy days in advance, and has to find out from the news network in real time as does everyone else.

Of course the US federal government has prior information from Powell even if the Fed is technically “independent”, otherwise how else do you think the government typically coordinates its economic policies to ensure market stability if the Fed can just switch the key rates up and down on a whim?

Perhaps the biggest indicator that the Fed rate is a carrot dangled by the US imperialists for China is what happened back in September 2024, when the Fed lowered its rate for the first time since Biden hiked it in 2022. Within a week, China immediately followed up with its major monetary easing policy (the “924 policy”) as its first attempt to reduce the burden of the local government debts. So, everything tracks here: the Fed has a direct influence on China’s local government debt burden, and it seems China desperately needs it to overcome the impending debt crisis.

Finally, Trump is simply one of the roles you see on the stage here. The US finance capital (the entire behemoth of Wall Street) is not panicking yet, that should tell you how much they already have Trump kept under their control, nearly a decade after his first surprise electoral victory in 2016.

[–] ColombianLenin@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thankfully, it seems that the Chinese leadership is finally admitting that consumption growth is going to be the priority of the next Five-Year Plan

There's a chance that China is moving slowly on issues because the Communist Party, as a Leninist organization, requires the party to comply with democratic centralism, meaning that they have to fulfil the goals set for the previous five year plan and can only switch gears to tackle new pressing issues once those have been discussed and agreed to in the proper venues, the National Congress and the Central Committee.

The fact that we as westerners might want China to react faster to issues can be contrary to the principles of democratic centralism, because it would mean we want Xi and the Politburo to take actions without first consulting it's most important democratic organs.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Actually, contrary to popular beliefs, China’s economy is highly decentralized, which means that the central government sets the goals, but the local governments have a lot of authorities to implement (and interpret) the policies in their own ways.

If there had been proper economic planning and coordination, we wouldn’t be seeing a glut in property and industries (EV and solar panels, for example). Such massive waste in capital, resource and labor misallocation that could have better served the people if there had been proper planning.

Similarly, Xi wouldn’t be scolding the local governments about their obsession with EVs and green tech if there had been proper coordination: “上项目,一说就是几样:人工智能、算力、新能源汽车,是不是全国各省份都要往这些方向去发展产业?” (“Every time a new project is mentioned, it’s always the familiar ones: artificial intelligence, computation, renewable energy cars, do every province across the country have to develop these same industries?”)

The way the Chinese system works is that the central government relegates a lot of autonomy to the local governments (which has historical reasons that can be traced back to the 1994 Tax Sharing Reform, which I had written extensively about, you can search for my posts), while it sets the goals for local development through controlling local official promotion - the main KPI is GDP growth numbers, which is why you see China is so obsessed with reaching a certain GDP target every year, because that’s literally how you advance your career.

As a result, most provinces and local governments compete with one another to build new infrastructure and housing, give massive subsidies (through heavy borrowing) to promote industries (for example, green tech prioritized by the 14th FYP) without coordination at the national level. Because the goal is to bring the GDP numbers up. Overcapacity? Oversupply of housing? Every provinces making the same thing? Who cares? That’s for the central government to worry about.

This is how you end up with a glut/overcapacity, the local governments in massive overhanging debt, and now the central government has to come in and consolidate the industries, which means there will be winners and losers. In other words, there will be people who get to keep their jobs, while many others will lose their jobs, further contributing to a deflationary economy.

This is why the Unified National Market is supposed to be introduced in the coming Five-Year Plan to help resolve such issues caused by the lack of coordination and recklessness between the local governments (read my post here).

However, the key question is whether the market will be unified through more centralization (through central economic planning) or more liberalization of market (let the private sector decides what it wants with minimal governmental interference)? In either case, the authority of the local governments will be curbed for sure in the coming years.

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the main KPI is GDP growth numbers, which is why you see China is so obsessed with reaching a certain GDP target every year, because that’s literally how you advance your career.

What do you make of the news that the new 5 year plan is the first that won’t have a GDP target?

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is inevitable because everything I wrote are common criticisms you see on Chinese financial press (lol, people criticize Chinese government, surprise isn’t it). It is long recognized that the KPI that centers on GDP is not going to be sustainable in the long run, even by the government itself.

The question is what will you replace it with, and what are the implementation details? There doesn’t seem to have a lot of info being released, and I don’t think we will know until early next year when the 15th FYP has started its motion.

Another question is enforcement and the reality of implementation. As I wrote in the above comment, the decentralized nature of the Chinese economy means that the local governments have a lot of autonomy. For example, the central government has been advocating for two-day weekend in the private sector for a long time, but apart from the initial enthusiasm, nobody ended up taking up the central government’s orders.

Why? Because the reality is that businesses that provide more rest time for its workers will lose out in a brutal competition (involution) and for the sake of survival, they could not afford that.

For the local governments who rely on levying value-added tax from those businesses to keep their municipal budgets operational (especially after the property slump that decimated much of their land income), they also cannot afford to let the businesses exercise a more humane version of exploitation.

Finally, the central government itself relies on value-added tax contributed by the local governments, and since the Chinese government is adamant about running a low deficit budget, it requires more tax revenues before it could invest domestically. Therefore, even the central government itself has to keep a blind eye on such blatant workers exploitation in the private businesses, as the enforcement of such policies will hurt its own revenues.

As you can see, resolving all these issues will require an overhaul of the governance and the relationship between the central and local governments as well as the private sector. The key implementation details of the next FYP will be a useful indication.

Once you understand the complex relationship between all these different layers of vested interests, you will have no surprise that why things are happening in a certain way in China, in spite of it being a socialist country.

Trying to build Socialism while adhering to Neoliberal principles is like trying to perform complex juggling while voluntarily trying one arm and one foot behind. Impressive feat but fundamentally limiting to what you can achieve.

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

I agree that the specific implementation details will be key to see since as you said if it’s not replaced by other metrics like better income equality, higher standards of living, more time off etc. as well as enforcement mechanisms to push the local governments towards those goals were not going to see a lot of change.

Hopefully there’s more to it planned than just removing the GDP target.

[–] replaceable@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When you say that China should become a domestic consumption economy do you mean that it should have a balanced trade, or that it should run a trade deficit?

Im asking because isnt US trade deficit only possible because of it's imperialistic nature? And if China were to run a trade deficit wouldnt it necessitate China becoming imperialist?

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

When China becomes a domestic consumption economy, which necessarily involves raising the household income, and thereby the purchasing power of the people, it will also entail losing the net exporter status because China’s export goods will no longer remain competitive, at least for the low-intermediate value added industries.

So, the reduction in trade surplus and a shift towards balanced trade and even running a deficit is simply a natural consequence of such economic policy. It is a policy choice. It means people working less hours, have more time to enjoy leisure, as there is no longer a need to accumulate massive amount foreign assets through exports.

Note that China running a $1 trillion trade surplus every year means - on a very simplistic sense - that Chinese labor has created $1 trillion of value added goods while receiving nothing of substance in return (other than a number in the accounts in Chinese banks). In other words, it is practically a gift of real goods and services to the rest of the world, especially for the wealthy Western economies that leverage their high currency exchange rate to extract surplus values from the developing world.

All of that shipment could sink while en route to their export destinations for all we care and it does nothing to improve the lives of the Chinese people, except that the government has followed the IMF policy that advocates countries accumulate foreign assets such that domestic spending can occur without running into deficit.

Im asking because isnt US trade deficit only possible because of it's imperialistic nature? And if China were to run a trade deficit wouldnt it necessitate China becoming imperialist?

Only if by choice. The problem with most Global South exporter countries is that they have invested billions and billions over the past 30-40 years into export-oriented industries, having listening to the IMF. This made any decision to transition away from export economy very difficult and costly, and since there is no guarantee for a payoff (what happens when the US sanctions your economy because your economic model isn’t aligned with the US interests? is “good guy” China going to come and save your economy?), most countries would not and could not afford to do that. Especially so if your country depends on importing essential goods from other countries. Most importantly, BRICS has failed to present itself as an alternative bloc where countries can depend on to shift their economy towards.

China is very different though, for that it already commands 31% of the global manufacturing capacity. There is no clear obstacles for China to import from other countries, except for certain high tech stuff that some countries want to protect. But for the most part, whether it is food or energy, China will not have any trouble getting them.

The ideal scenario is that China imports from the other developing countries (running a trade deficit) such that those countries would not have to rely on selling to the US. This will be crucial for de-dollarization. Furthermore, China can use its vast foreign reserves to pay off the foreign currency-denominated debt of many Global South countries, which will also be critical for reducing the reliance of those countries on the US.

By reducing the reliance of developing countries on exporting to the US and other advanced Western economies, it will provide them with more freedom to pursue economy policies that benefit their own people, rather than to supply cheap goods to serve the West (and in doing so, suppressing the purchasing power and consumption demand of their own people). This will be a good start no matter how you look at it.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is becoming clear that China’s maneuvers are centered on lessening the burden on the local government debt level, which must have been taking a heavier toll on the economy than expected.

The YouTube channel "Maxinomics" of all things mentioned this, and the lack of consumer spending/domestic consumption. It's a generic capitalist YouTube channel, so I was surprised by this. But I can't remember if they tied it to the fed interest rate.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Western economists have been calling out China’s underconsumption and overinvestment problems for years.

The key here is that they do not have the solution for it. They still believe that running high deficit is bad, and they think if China tries to run high deficit to resolve this problem, it will be very very bad for China’s economy.

People like Michael Pettis are especially guilty of this. He correctly identifies the balance of payment issues, but is otherwise wrong on the solution. Funnily enough, he lives in Beijing and is actually very well known in the Chinese economic circle. So I have no doubt that the policymakers and government officials are familiar with his work, and that many economists in China listen to people like him.

[–] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

finally admitting that consumption growth is going to be the priority of the next Five-Year Plan

Wasn't that already part of the dual circulation strategy that has languished?

The options for China to massively invest in domestic services and consumption are right there, maddening they can't seem to carry it out

Imagine the economic stimulation that would result from bringing every Chinese citizen to the standard (maybe sans pensions) of someone in Shanghai