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Earth ‘well outside safe operating space for humanity’, scientists find
(www.theguardian.com)
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We’re so fucked lol.
I'm going to be a dad in a few weeks. 🥲 (Feel free to dunk on me with the inevitable 'why?'s, and 'did you live under a rock?' I can't feel any worse anymore anyway 🤗)
I chose not to have kids. You can have my carbon offset.
Individual guilt for systemic problems plays well to the elites (ultra-wealthy). Unless you’re a billionaire. Then I want my offset back.
I also don't have kids so have my carbon offset as well
I also don't have kids but I'm keeping my carbon offset to my damn self.
And my axe!
I'll take that axe if it improves my carbon offset
Mine is 7 months old now. I felt the same. Just wait, you'll likely feel that it was the best thing you ever did. Your kid may be the one to drive some positive change. Just do the best you can and give yourself some grace.
Yes everyone should use this logic. Your kid might be the one, have 10 to increase your odds!
Realistically, 10 probably would spread your resources too thin, if you want each to excel enough to be part of the solution.
3-5 though, that's a good range.
Your sarcasm detector needs a tune up.
No I understood the sarcasm, and responded as the "straight foil"
It's the style of humor of Tommy Lee Jones's character in Men In Black.
Good luck to you and yours. I sincerely hope we’re wrong about how bad we think it’s going to get in the next 50 years.
You wrote hope but that message can go either way
Human problems have human solutions.
Renewables are already cheaper than fossil fuels, it just takes time for the economics to shake out.
Plenty of jobs in a clean economy as well.
Yeah, that's the thing the scientists are saying we're running out of though.
Change starts slowly but the effects compound
Edit
Some other effects are compounding faster…
Fossil fuel use isn't
"...faster than expected." I feel like we've been hearing that alot over the last few years, it's like the tagline for the climate crisis.
The effects from about 250 years of industrialization sure did compound, huh?
So we'll compound more and be right on track in what, 300-350 years?
Industrial revolution was not global, renewables are
If industrialization wasn't global surely the effects of it weren't global either 🤡
Upgrade your reading comprehension 🤡
Where did the industrial revolution start?
It was not global from 1760 to 1820 ya jabroni
Renewables are being implemented in a far wider geographic than the Industrial Revolution was is my point
My point is the implications of the industrial revolution don't stop at national borders.
You don't need every country to emit pollution when they all share the same atmosphere.
And it's overwhelmingly likely that the rollout of renewables and environmentally responsible infrastructure won't happen everywhere at once. It begins in the countries with the ability and materials to produce such systems.
Do you have a map of existing renewable use per capital to see if my opinion is accurate or are you just going to be a massive prick?
It's not my fault if you don't understand. Go read a book.
Great talk, you've done wonders for the community.
You called me a massive prick dude. Don't dish it out if you can't take it back.
It's not that hard a concept. I even posted a picture. Do you really think technology is not being developed and implemented faster today than the 18th century?
I think the incentive is incredibly asymmetrical.
Everyone wants a tractor to help them plow the field, not everyone wants to do carbon capture.
I'll go read that book now lol
Dooming is like porn to these people man. They don't care about the realities at all, and only are interested in this article because it helps them feel bad.
Doomers just aren't worth it.
I just got a job in agtech that mitigates climate change specifically so I didn't have to live with existential dread
Life's too short to spend it worrying
I thought you said you are going to be dead in a few weeks. Then I reread it, and still pretty much think the same.
Meh, humanity is getting what it deserves. We literally did this to ourselves.
*Corporations and billionaires did this
**With a large amount of consent from the governed.
Maybe the country with the most imprisoned people per capita should not have that claim
Our participation rates are abysmal. We can say all we like about how voting is too hard or whatever but every thread about US politics has multiple people in it encouraging people not to bother voting.
Not voting = mostly I'm a-ok with things as is, or I don't care
That's pretty close to consent IMO, and then there's the actual voters who continually vote for rich assholes who don't give a shit about them and promise to only make it harder on poor people and easier for the rich and people vote for them in droves because of that or despite of that.
Fuck man look at the mayor of New York.
We're all about the economy in this country. Even people pretending to be environmentalists have debated with me about "well, you can't just outlaw coal" or "we can't just rush off of cars". It's all about the economy and making things easier for business people in this country to the point where the two major parties are now the business party and the business blowjobs and hookers party.
While you're mentioning incarceration, they vote for that too. We love harsh penalties for poor people and "criminals" and vote so hard for them that Democrats have to have a biannual contest with Republicans about who is most willing to fellate the police and give them more budget for urban tanks.
It all seems wrong and bizarre to me, but sit an American voter down and you'll be surprised just how many of them hold these opinions or at least some of them and continually vote for this crap.
So people don't vote because they are convinced it doesn't have an impact, and you're saying that's consent? Nah. Us not being on the streets is more akin to consent.
I think both are indicative of consent.
Gotta say even though I'm pretty cynical I love and support recent labor movement advances.
We deserve it.