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They shouldn't have made a personal attack like that, but they're not wrong. Herd immunity is needed. Individual vaccination, while helpful, isn't fool proof. Especially for highly infectious diseases like measles.
Idk, my advisor, a PhD in immunology, argued that the evidence for herd immunity in vaccine effectiveness was a bit shaky. I think I'm gonna listen to her rather than a random commenter with a personal agenda to Prove Me Wrong like that commenter.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'personal agenda.' I'm legitimately trying to have a productive conversation so please don't take anything said as a personal affront. We're just trying to express the importance of herd immunity as it stands from expert consensus on the subject.
If you have any studies on herd immunity not being as important, I would love to read through them.
I understand why you trust your advisor. I'm lucky enough to be friends with someone who was a professor of infectious disease, has a PhD in virology and created a vaccine. They are my go to for anything on the subject matter. Again, anything you can share on the topic is greatly appreciated.
That was for
👉 collapse_already@lemmy.ml
If you actually studied this science, then you should have learned not to listen to any one person's opinion. There is no shortage of Nobel laureates saying stupid things for which they know nothing about.
If someone says the science is shakey then it's more scientific to believe them than believe someone who is confident the theory is correct.
I think I'm going to listen to my immunology professor on things about immunology, but thanks for the reminder not to listen to people's opinions, especially online.
Non scholarly https://abcnews.go.com/Health/measles-breakthrough-cases-vaccination-important/story?id=120276354
scholarly https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9413104/
Given 97% efficacy of measles vaccine, how do you explain many countries have had measles elimination for so long?
I don't think you were following the thread closely. I'm not arguing against the efficacy of vaccines. There's exactly one sentence about herd immunity in your second link, and even then I'm only sharing the opinion of someone I know.