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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 78 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

I don't understand. It just does not make any sense, even for a far-right autocratic regime.

The only explanation is that whoever is pulling the strings behind all those clowns really just wants to destroy the whole government & administration. Using crackpot media pundits as useful idiots.

[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 94 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

It’s called the Dark Enlightenment, they essentially want to accelerate civilization collapse so their utopian vision is realized. The financial backers behind Trump adopted this philosophy, and have articulated their plan: dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. People really need to be talking with their community about localization of production of basic necessities, otherwise it will be chaos, famine and death when the system fails.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 4 weeks ago

I'd think this is a crazy conspiracy theory, except that it's pretty much all written down in the open. No crazy links to obscure Catholic orders and Mason lore and George Soros. It's just "Peter Thiel listens to Curtis Yarvin, and Thiel is getting his money's worth from saving the Trump Campaign from financial ruin".

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

utopian

For them, sure. Feudalism is pretty utopian when you’re a king, not a peasant

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, isn't it funny how their utopia is everyone else's dystopia? Ha! Hilarious! 😮‍💨

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

The independent Texas power grid suddenly makes sense...

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Until it fails from yet another once-in-a-century ice storm this decade. But they'll probably blame meteorologists for getting the once-in-a-century "wrong" rather than understand the effects of climate change.

[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Climate change and extreme wealth inequality are the primary drivers of civilization collapse. From that understanding, the actions of this administration makes perfect sense.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 7 points 4 weeks ago

Especially if combined with rampant diseases and resource depletion.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 4 weeks ago

Why were you down voted?
You kinda make a good point.

[–] Neps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

It is not because of what you think it is. They love the privatization of everything here its just for more capital. I've only ever lived in deep red states my whole life and have never had the power go out nearly as much as it does here. Can't wait to leave this shithole.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Their utopian vision is really weird. I like having humans, they create cool stuff. My anime, tasty plebian food, and so much more are made by the hands and minds of ordinary people.

What is the point of being "rich", if all the neat things are gone?

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

Because they don't think these things are neat. They like anything bland and gold. They want everyone to like the exact same stuff so you know exactly how much more theirs cost. They want you consuming exactly the same things so they can control people through the product.

Individuality and humanity run directly counter to their power.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 weeks ago

It's times like these I'm happy that my mom still has her farmland and I spent all of high school working it. I need to invest in seeds.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Oof. I knew Peter Thiel and by extension this fucker's "philosophy" is behind it, but I guess I never realized how neatly it all fits until now.

Once again, dictators usually tell you what they want to do, better listen.

Except this time one has to be aware of the dictator behind the dictator, and way too few people are.

For Thiel, such a malleable (i.e. 100% corrupt) government must be his life's wet dream.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

There is no profit in order. There is plenty in chaos.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

They do, group number 1, billionaires who want their own neofuedal kingdoms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

Group 2, Putin and Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Remember when Ronald Reagan said this in 1981?

government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.

American conservatives grabbed onto that line and have held it as gospel ever since. Kneecapping the government has been a major goal of theirs for over four decades now. You will sometimes hear people talk about "bleeding the beast": taking all the government benefits they can get their hands on and then dodging taxes, with the assumption they are helping to slowly kill the system. Unfortunately, there is no plan (AFAIK) for what they want the world to look like after the collapse.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.

Bleak. And this was a transatlantic trend, many European states had their own version. I just hope that this time around they learned their lesson before it all goes to the dogs: in the end lean government just gives more direct and undemocratic power to the rich who only speak the language of money. Which makes it hard to get out of, because what politician wants to cut off their own cash flow.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Less money spent on services means more money can be spent on the king’s new palace. At least that’s the way it worked in France long ago.

If the numbers are public, have a look at what your local dictator is spending it on.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago
[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

At this point, I'm convinced the motive for most of what the Trump regime does is gratuitous cruelty. Once you accept that explanation, all those motherfuckers do starts to make sense.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 4 weeks ago

Maybe on the surface. Once you realize that Peter Thiel is the main cash daddy behind the posse, and how beholden he is to this "philosophy", it makes even more sense.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 4 points 4 weeks ago

They won through lies and deception, now they need to comply unless they want to enrage their ever diminishing support base.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago

I'm sure it is something like 'lets make it private and 1000x more expensive. Also, only my guy has the right company for the task.'