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[โ€“] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Should name products made from animals as they are: spherical gassed pig after a short, miserable life without ever seeing daylight. Or: salty fat from methane burping cows that could also have fed their killed off offspring.

[โ€“] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

salty fat from methane burping cows that could also have fed their killed off offspring.

Who eats suet and why have you made it salty? I'd think "salty fat" would be closer to bacon.

[โ€“] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's a favorite vegan pastime to invent the most disgustable description of animal based foods possible.

First time ever!

[โ€“] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well I'm sorry to say but I think you just won't be able to come up with anything that would deter someone.

[โ€“] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Common sense to stop meat consumption also has not worked sufficiently until now. Any ideas for a better strategy? Or just plunge forward into an inhabitable planet, discarding any responsibility, mistreating animals as we go?

[โ€“] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nice strawman.

What's it like, living in a black and white world?

[โ€“] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Literally no idea. You can't see cause and effect, can you? No sense of empathy neither. Ah well, you're not alone, unfortunately. For the moment.

[โ€“] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Again, black and white.

There's no arguing a moron who keeps pretending it's black and white. I'll prove to you just how asinine your view is: my brother is a hunter. They cull roe deer to keep the population in check, since humans have been the apex predator in these parts for thousands of years.

If they didn't cull them, the population would destroy the entire ecological system, which would lead to all the deer dying, eventually. Not to mention increased deer accidents on roads, killing more people.

So while you like to pretend that death is horrible and to be avoided at all costs if you can, but then end up advocating practices which would lead to suffering and death, just indirectly.

Ie if you're put into a trolley problem, you're the type to just stand there without pulling the lever which would save several life at the cost of one, because "murdering is wrong and I'd bw actively killing the other person myself". Meaning that you put your own ideas and the sense of personality you have above the lives of others. Not just better as ideas, but you'd actually stand there watching the trolley roll over people you could've saved, but chose not to, so that you can just blame others.

And you talk of empathy, rofl. Maybe start by trying to understand your own thoughts/views.

Oh and eating the resulting meat from the culling is fucking delicious AND moral.

What would you do with sheep amd cows btw? They require people. Sheep have to be shorn. If you don't shear your sheep, that's tantamount to animal abuse. So we end up getting wool, but you don't think it's moral to use that. Why?

So if you think we can't keep sheep or cows anymore, and they can't be released into the wild because they are domesticated species. So then stop letting them breed at all, meaning that in a generation, they'd be completely gone.

So you end up advocating for genocide of entire species with this black and white view you have.

You know all the produce you eat is protected from pests and other animals? Your avocado isn't "cruelty-free" dude, and eating avocados when they're not even grown on the same continent, have them flown to you? But that's moral again, because you don't have to personally think about death you're indirectly causing.

So yeah

You can't see cause and effect, can you?