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[–] hotdogcharmer@lemmy.zip 41 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

Haha yeah awesome real problems getting solved by serious politicians here, guys! If you can actually get your hands on any real meat without paying an arm and a leg for it what the actual fuck are we doing here lads what the fuck are these fucking politicians doing???

The world is on fire, the economy is in the shitter globally, there are multiple ongoing genocides, facism is on the rise again, and we're wiggling our dicks around talking about whether you can call veggie burgers "burgers"? Are you serious? WHO CARES???

Is this bring your kid to work day and they let the kids do a vote for a change instead as a treat? Is this a joke?? What motherfucker is getting into politics to make sure "hey those damn vegans better not call anything a burger".

These poncy little briefcase-botherers need a hobby or something because this is absolutely the biggest case of dicking around on the job I've ever heard of. Ridiculous. Stupid. A joke. Pathetic. Childish. Vapid. Can we get some adults in the EU Parliament please?

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 25 points 6 days ago (26 children)

"Our data shows that almost 70% of European consumers understand these names as long as products are clearly labelled vegan or vegetarian,"

How fucking stupid are your customers if "almost 70%" can work out that a vegan sausage doesn't contain meat?

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm a meat eater and I don't even see much point in this ruling. Basically all the plant-based steak or burger alternatives I've seen have been clearly labeled as such. Stores usually separate them from meat-based products anyway, so that vegans and vegetarians could more easily find what they're looking for.

[–] missingno@feddit.dk 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This is EU-wide, not just how good your local options are.

Also, this would otherwise be an open door to degrade your meat-eating products. In Denmark (and I guess EU), we'd been fighting for "cheese" to only be made of 100% cheese, or "juice" being 100% fruits. If you start to allow some of these ultra-processed foods being labeled as something vaguely like meat, everyone will suffer from falling food quality, as these products will sneak their way in.

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[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 days ago

I’m really glad that we don’t have more serious problems to deal, than this.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Good to see the parliament tackling the most pressing issues.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Seems a bit idiotic to me. So what's a burger with veggie substitutes supposed to be called? Vegger?

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sure, why not

All in favor for the new vegger, say Aye

[–] vane@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

I'm sure this critical decision will help us.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Cool still not buying dead animal

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is what seems crazy to me, surely no one is changing what they buy based on this and who is really so dumb that they were confused by the vegan sausage not containing meat?

[–] menjoo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And even if, no one dies of eating a vegan sausage by mistake.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 25 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Can we change the title to β€œmeat industry has been nagging about this non issue for years now, so the babies are finally getting their non issue resolved?”

Ffs sell your product but don’t be a bitch about that tiny speck of competition.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (5 children)

that tiny speck of competition.

It's not that tiny anymore. The number of people choosing non-meat options is growing faster and faster as people realize that meat is expensive and bad for your health but the plant based alternatives are cheaper and good for you.

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[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I doubt it'll actually go through.

They're clearly labeled "veggie", "vegitarian" or "vegan", and consumers understand those labels to mean, at minimum, no meat.

"Sausage", I can see how you could argue it has to contain meat to be called a sausage. I don't agree, but I can understand the argument being made.

"Burger", however. Is distinctly different than "hamburger", in fact, we often substitute the prefix to fit whatever it is. (Not that hamburgers are made of ham, i know it comes from hamburg) Such as, "fish-burger" or "chicken-burger", so why would "veggie-burger" be any more confusing than "fish-burger"?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago (6 children)

"Sausage", I can see how you could argue it has to contain meat to be called a sausage.

I don't; the defining feature of sausage isn't that it's meat, it's the fact that it's stuffed in a tube. If people want to grind up veggies and stuff them in a tube, why would that not be a veggie sausage?

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

grind up veggies and stuff them in a tube, why would that not be a veggie sausage?

Salad dildo

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[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I'm a french vegetarian living in France, and I couldn't care less about this decision, the people arguing for either side are really wasting their time on this, who cares how it's called honestly ? As long as the products are available in store and the labeling is different, which it always is, and very clearly: veggie based product try their best to make sure vegetarian and vegans will identify them easily and will know without a doubt that it is not meat. Who care that it is called a "burger", "steak" or something else ?

[–] MouldyCat@feddit.uk 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I care that the government cares (or more specifically that it was bribed to do so by lobby groups)

Vegetarian or not, you should care about this. Propping up the meat and dairy industry is not in the interests of the public. This move is part of an agenda by the meat and dairy industry to deceive the public into thinking there's something "natural" about the modern meat processing industry. It's bullshit and if we had a government that actually worked in our interests instead of that of the fat cats, it would be the meat and dairy industry being forced to change their labelling, to highlight to the public the real costs of meat consumption.

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[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Are veggie patties really sold as "Burgers" in the EU? A Burger is technically a dish, it deppends what you put in it, as far as I understand. You can have an Egg burger, or a turd burger.

Fuck the meat industry, btw. If it's dying - time to get a "real" job. Free market and all.

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[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Cause the world isnt burning and you can spend time to worry about this shite

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 5 days ago (10 children)

How quickly Lemmy turns on the EU when they do something you don't like. "Vegan burger" doesn't tell me what's in it. Could be fucking sawdust.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 5 days ago

How quickly Lemmy turns on the EU when they do something you don’t like.

It's almost like a thing can be praised for its positive aspects and at the same time criticised for its negative aspects.

β€œVegan burger” doesn’t tell me what’s in it. Could be fucking sawdust.

"Sausage" doesn't tell you what's in it either. Probably pork, but could be beef. Probably some amount of rusk, also. It's almost like you have to check the packaging for other words.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago

Could be fucking marbles. Could be fucking Legos. Could be fucking quick set drywall compound. Could be fucking grass clippings. Could be fucking old math textbooks. Could be the fucking Queen's used linens.

Except none of those make any fucking sense. You know what does make sense? Fucking vegan burger.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 8 points 5 days ago

How quickly Lemmy turns on the EU when they do something you don’t like.

That's how democracy works. Just because something does something good doesn't mean you have to ignore and accept the bad.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Something you have to realize is that the meat lobby has been heavily lobbying for this for years. This has nothing to do with consumers. Just like with vegan cheese, this will only make the product names more confusing. There used to be products called 'vegan cheese'. Perfectly clear what it is - just plant-based cheese alternative. Now you can't legally name a product 'vegan cheese', so instead they're called 'vegan slices' (if they come in slices) or other nonsense like 'plant-based product', which tells you absolutely nothing until you read the description.

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[–] germanichwurst@feddit.org 5 points 5 days ago

I live on Brussels. I know eurocrats. Corruption is rife, industry lobbyists are honoured guest, champagne is cheap at the mickey bar (named after the funny chairs) in the European Parliament. The head of the EU expressly required an apartment inside the commission where she enjoy extraterritoriality. The police cannot search there for her multiple corruption affairs.

Meanwhile our hospitals are shit, they just spent billions in F-35. They scraped the money for homeless people to be sheltered during freezing winter.

If you thought Brussels was less corrupted than London Washington or moskow I have bad news for you

It's an outrage that they even spent a second on such bullcrap. Sawdust isn't legally food and nothings stops you for reading the ingredient list.

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[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 days ago

Wait till they learn how long peanut butter has existed

[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Should name products made from animals as they are: spherical gassed pig after a short, miserable life without ever seeing daylight. Or: salty fat from methane burping cows that could also have fed their killed off offspring.

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[–] DreasNil@feddit.nu 9 points 6 days ago

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[–] treno_rosso@feddit.org 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Investing time and money into producing meat alternatives for the growing market share of vegans and vegetarians? Hell no, better throw our money on a dumpster fire of lobbyism and denial.

Just out of spite i will from now on refer to milk as cow drink.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

When will they ban the name of the Hungarian dessert "Bird Milk" for being made of cow milk, sugar, vanilla extract, and eggs, instead of milk from birds?

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