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Sennheiser Exits Gaming Headphone Business
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So they finally realized "Gaming Headphones" are just headphones, great. 👍
Can we have sound cards again, now please?
We do have sound cards in the form of DACs at least
Not having to deal with a sound card driver anymore has been a highlight of my year. Just get a dac and amp
A DAC is just a USB sound card (unless you're using optical in). But yeah, USB drivers tend to be more reliable since they are generic and usually not written by idiots.
Not really, no. You can use an optical or coaxial output from your mb as well and you don't need drivers for that.
Only if the DAC includes those inputs, which isn't the case with all models. Of course, a DAC could also not include a USB input too, but that's uncommon these days.
I personally love my X-Fi XtremeGamer and i'm not changing it for anything less than a AE-5 Plus.
As someone who just dumped their AE-5 I could not STAND the driver. Windows and Linux. Unless you’re running monitors by default, it’s not worth the hassle. The UI+driver on windows are just clunky, old, and have been the cause of a few BSODs over the years.
Why wouldn't i have a monitor by default? 🤨
Also, the main reason i have a sound card for is extra performance, and so far the experience has been flawless for me, no BSOD nor similar. 👍
Monitors are the name fancy speakers use haha. But yeah, I just switched to a Schitt Modi+Magni for my purpose (HD660Ses)
Edit: Turns out that my information is outdated - hardware audio offloading support was added back in Windows 8, apparently!
Original comment: Sound processing hasn’t been offloaded to the sound card since Windows XP - you’ll get no performance improvement from having a sound card.
Benchmarks on my PC say otherwise (and i use Windows 10).
I’m interested in learning more! What benchmarking software are you using and how are you testing that?
Edit: I looked into it and my information was outdated - support for hardware audio offloading was added back in Windows 8! I still have no idea why they removed it between XP and Windows 8, but I’m glad it’s back.
I reccomend you watch the following video:
https://youtu.be/aFy9jZzDSnY?si=2RA9NI0BOT6PFYn8
But basically, just as it has been since the dawn of PC Gaming, it's a case by case scenario.
However!
If you are dealing with intensive, single thread tasks (AKA Emulating PS2 and higher, or video rendering), you should get a noticeble increase on performance due to the CPU being relegated of audio-related tasks.
And finally, 99.9% of PC users don't need an output higher than 48Khz, 16-Bit. So if you aren't the exception, put your settings around those numbers to enjoy a bit of extra performance.
Yeah, when Vista came out it basically killed off sound cards as a mainstream product, both because of the new way the system interacted with the sound card and because of the big increase on CPU (and even GPU) requirements.
But once Windows 8 came out in 2012, x64 finally became standard, and seems sound card manufacturers wanted to give one last hurrah by optimizing their drivers for Windows 8 (which makes them compatible with Win 10 & 11 almost by default).
Now, the sound industry is still pretty much dead to anyone who isn't an audiophile. But i'm happy to say that they are still products that can enhance your audio, production and gaming experience if you know how to use them. :)
Thanks for sharing, and for putting me right, I appreciate it! I’m very glad that they’ve backtracked on that. While it’s not a huge amount of processing in most situations, I work as a programmer and I don’t love it when I compile code and my music sounds horrible for a few seconds as the CPU gets absolutely massacred by MSBuild.
I have a DAC which is currently connected by USB - it does have SPDIF inputs as well, though. Do you happen to know if they make sound cards with USB output? Or would I need to use the SPDIF output on the card?
I might still have an old sound card kicking around (Creative X-Fi Fatality or something) but I’m not sure it’ll have Windows 8+ compatible drivers, so I might have to get a new one.
No prob, i'm glad to be helpful. 🙂✌️
Now, i don't know of any sound card that uses USB as an output, so yeah, SPDIF would be your only option.
And yes, all X-Fi cards have Windows 8/10 official compatible drivers. They were the *top-tier sound solutions of their time after all. 🏆🎵
*Except the X-Fi XtremeAudio, that thing is just a re-branded Audigy SE.
My x-fi xtremegamers been collecting dust since it got beat out by the schiit modi
Aside from the quality being better I don't have to deal with that software that doesn't know wtf a 2.1 setup is.
Why would software need to know that?
Well, back when sound cards were a thing most people didin't have a subwoofer (nor do they now being honest).
Not necessarily true. There were multiple PC desktop speakers with subwoofer. My old Altec Lansing kit had one.
Logitech used to make fancy 2, 2.1, and even 4.1 speaker systems.
I'm using a set of klipsch 4.1's as we speak, and used to drive them with an Audigy 2.
I'm happy with my FIIO, works great with my beyerdynamics and no separate driver needed
Epos make a couple of USB DAC/AMPs too, and the GSX 1000 is apparently reasonably well received. Haven't used one personally but it shows up on my Amazon recommendations occasionally.