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I get this is something marginalized folks must live with on a daily basis and none of this is surprising, but I’m a white cishet guy and this stuff is eye opening and (further) radicalizing to me.

The entire social response to Kirk getting merc’d is literally the can-excuse-1 can-excuse-2 meme. Down to bone.

White, cishet, male-dominated society (and the mainstream media that extends from it) has decided that, okay, maybe Kirk said some very pointed or occasionally untoward comments. But really, can any of those words compare to being willing to debate in the Marketplace of Ideas? Ok, maybe he was a bit racist. Maybe he didn’t care for trans folks. Sure, that’s all a bit rude. But he was willing to discuss his ideas and be civil about it (ok, maybe not civil, but he didn’t kill anyone over it), and in the end that’s all that really matters, right?

Politicians, the media, and a good chunk of society is basically saying how marginalized people may feel about all this is entirely irrelevant. Any sort of speech that is racist, sexist, or bigoted is excusable so long as the subject serves the broader neoliberal, white supremacist, settler project.

Marg bar Amrika.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 68 points 1 week ago (21 children)

I think the more interesting thing is that even among white people the vast majority seem to be either indifferent in a "Yeah he brought it on himself" kind of way, or entirely positive about it.

It's only among activists (liberal and fascist), the political class and their media sphere trying to drum up the idea and invent a false reality where people are majority disgusted by this. I'm just not seeing it. Most people simply do not care or do in fact support it.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Are all Evangelicals activists under this model?

Because they are RILED up by it and there are objectively tens of millions of people who not only check that box but are fully checked into the propaganda machine and not indifferent. I grant there are some who check that Evangelical box on the survey who don't give a shit but there are probably a few ten millions at least who do given my own relatives aren't extraordinarily special in that demographic and they are wound up pretty high on freaking out. It's definitely reinforced and driven by reactionary propaganda, Fox News, influencers, FB algorithms, etc but it's only partially synthetic.

That, the story someone posted here of a raging chud starting to scream at them over disrespecting his death at their job and being sent home by the manager. Clearly real people are experiencing real emotions even if manipulated and whipped up by the media. Evangelicals in particular see him as their own boy, their connection to the youth, their beloved gen-z whisperer who was totally winning kids over to conservatism and Christ on the godless liberal commie college campuses by epically owning and debating them just like in God's Not Dead.

If you're not seeing it it's probably because your sphere doesn't include a lot of these people or they're bottling it up in the interactions you have with them (professional for example) but expressing it online or at home.

So maybe not a majority but a very big minority, perhaps 1/10 or 1/15 any of those still being huge numbers.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Are all Evangelicals activists under this model?

Yes. Everyone's an activist if they're engaged in political activism.

[–] Pieplup@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

or if they are transgender.

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