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[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doesn't matter if they "become socialist" if they still vote for the same 2 party system. Democrats will never allow America to become actually left-wing

[-] pathos@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

The 2 party system doesn't change until voting changes. First-past-the-post voting actively encourages 2 dominant parties. Ranked choice voting isn't perfect, but it's definitely better than FTTP and it has the most momentum in the US right now.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah RCV sounds like the way forward. I was hoping some states would adopt PR but unfortunately that is blocked by the Uniform Congressional Districts Act.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Agree, but here’s what they don’t want you to know!

Not every thing posted here has to do with America. The world has other countries don’t you know?

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Murdoch never saw it coming" and the use of the word "boomers" clearly imply that this meme is in reference to America but sure

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Mate?

Murdochs from Australia and boomers are an entire generation of people in the west. Nothing about this is uniquely American.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Murdochs from Australia

Just want to point out that Rupert Murdoch is arguably one of the least Australian people in the world. You're not necessarily wrong to say that he's "from" Australia, since that's where he originated, but he made an active choice to actually give up his Australian citizenship, which arguably makes him less Australian than someone who lacks Australian citizenship purely by random circumstance. So using him as an example of "American" isn't by any means wrong.

You're right in the overall point you're trying to make though. Murdoch's influence has been a scourge on Australia as well as America, and the UK, and beyond. It's a nitpick, but one I think is worth being aware of.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Murdoch has been the scourge of the entire western world, or at the very least the western anglosphere. He might be an American, but his influence is not limited to that country.

Same with the use of the term "boomers", and the association with boomers ruining the economy for everyone else. For example here's an excellent lecture from a surprisingly self-aware boomer Conservative member of the House of Lords in the UK. Despite being both a Conservative and a boomer, he points out the ways in which boomers have destroyed the economic prospects of future generations. This is in the context of the UK, not America (though the same lessons apply in America, Australia, and elsewhere).

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago

Voting is not capable of fixing our system.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

If you adopted PR and suddenly had more political parties, it seems to me that a lot of the current problems in US politics would go away

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago

That would certainly be better, though very far from perfect. But I doubt they'd allow such a thing to happen anyway.

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

The US isn't the only country in the world

[-] potoo22@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

*Looks at maps of the US*
"I don't understand"

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