They shouldn't be able to do that!
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But if you don’t see what they’re saying, why do you care? How does it affect you?
What you want is to be able to silence them because you don’t like what they’re saying, ie censorship.
me personally? I don't particularly care. i rarely use mute/block features.
but I understand that for some people, its a problem, because harassment doesn't just end at insults, it can also be spreading rumours and talking shit.
its not going to be obvious to onlookers that one person has muted another, so if the harasser goes all over the victim's posts saying terrible lies and rumours, then the victim should be able to know that and take action to stop it, even if the rumours aren't against the community/instance ToS, and the victim can't prove to the mods that the rumours are lies.
OK so you do want censorship.
yes, we all want some censorship.
defederation is censorship.
instance bans are censorship.
community bans are censorship.\
is your position that none of those should be allowed?
if so, thats a wild position to take, but you should say it with your full chest at least.
if thats not your position, why are you drawing the line here? and why are you willing to die on this arbitrary hill?
Speak for yourself.
And I disagree with them.
My position is that it should all be up to the user. Let me block instances and communities if I don't want to see them. Let me choose what content I want to see. I don't need some mods deciding what is and isn't acceptable based on their ideologies and beliefs, because as we all know and see every day, most abuse that power almost all the time.
It's not wild at all, and I have never tried to hide it. I've said it openly many, many times on Lemmy. I think all censorship is bad. Only weak minded people want or need censorship.
Nice attempted "gotcha" though.
But that's the right off the mod and the admin to express themselves through blocking and defederation. It sounds like you're supporting compelled speech
How on earth do you come to that conclusion? Do you even know what "compelled speech" is? What is it?
I know you don't know btw, but I will have a good laugh at you trying to explain it.
You seem to be against letting people control who says what on their own servers.
It's not a stretch to imagine you want that enshrined in law.
Forcing someone to keep content available on their own servers by law is forced speech, because refusing to serve content from their own servers is a form of speech (assuming you're American, because, yanno) (in this case, the forced speech was deemed legal, but still forced speech).
You're saying you're not just for the freedom of speech (government cannot silence you) you're anti-censorship (nobody can silence you), which means nothing without the ability to protect it.
So me wanting free speech means that I want compelled speech, in your mind?
Lol so forcing other people to serve your content is free speech, in your mind?
If you're censoring someone then you don't want free speech. If you're hosting a platform for discussion and you start banning people and deleting posts etc, you're being authoritarian and you are demonstrating that you don't think free speech should be allowed.
If a private citizen removing your content from their own privately owned server is interfering with your right to free speech, then forcing a private citizen to serve your content from their privately owned server is forced speech, by the same arguments.
Which makes you an authoritarian demonstrating that you think forced speech should be allowed.
Simple as.
You're allowed to say it, but I'm not forced to repeat it on your behalf using my servers. You can say it using your own servers, or the servers of someone who agrees with you.
The right to not say something is an aspect of free speech that you don't seem to support.