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[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 185 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

“This impacts me now, therefore I allow myself to be rational.”

Cool, I guess.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Better late than never, I suppose. Although I would have preferred sooner. It's crazy how all the things conservatives are scared of are so far away and in distant places yet as soon as they see it first hand they're like "oh shit, I was just an asshole." Kinda proves that not all of them are awful people to begin with, I guess. They were just gullible.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's crazy how all the things conservatives are scared of are so far away and in distant places yet as soon as they see it first hand they're like "oh shit, I was just an asshole."

I watched the Utah governor's press conference and he literally says something like, "I've spent 33 hours praying it was someone not from here, someone who came in here, someone from out of the country". Like dude, you have an entire echo chamber set up to make and keep your people angry, your entire political machine is geared to keep them angry, and y'all have advocated for the right to shoot people for so long that you literally can't take their guns away, and you thought oh, it'll be someone from out of state? He was so upset he was almost crying. Still can't admit any of that, though.

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Out of state is a charitable interpretation, a more cynical one would be a conservative leaning individual instead of a liberal or minority.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When he said "out of state" or whatever the exact words that he said, I pretty much interpreted his meaning as "liberal, Democrat, or minority". But since that's my interpretation of what he said, I went with what he actually said. [Well, fairly close, it's not an exact quote.]

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I thought about the same.

I think the another state part was partially covering up what he actually meant with the 'us' before it. The way he phrased it 'us' could mean either he was hoping the shooter wasn't a conservative or that it was an out of country/state citizen who was not his problem. I think he meant the conservative interpretation and added the out of state part as a rhetorical tactic to disguise or professionalize his real intent.

relevant quote for reference: “For 33 hours, I was … I was praying that if this had to happen here, that it wouldn’t be one of us. That somebody drove from another state, somebody came from another country,” he said. “Sadly, that prayer was not answered the way I hoped for. Just because I thought it would make it easier on us if we could just say ‘Hey, we don’t do that here.’”

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We should all have learned the hard truth the internet taught us decades ago: admitting you are wrong is so incredibly difficult and painful. People will move entire mountains before ever admitting they are wrong. It's a weakness, and the MAGA cult is centered around and exploits this one weird quirk about humans. It's always someone else's fault. Never an ounce of introspection. Pure and utter cowardice.

[–] DonkMagnum@lemy.lol 2 points 3 weeks ago

They aren't gullible so much as living up to the American ideal. What's more American than being frightened, angry, greedy, ignorant and selfish, while telling yourself you are god's chosen?

[–] cm0002@piefed.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's like, orphan crushing machine adjacent or something, lol

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Bigot that hates ethnic minorities, LGBT people, disabled people, poor people has now stopped hating gay people.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 16 points 3 weeks ago

Well he affirms black, gay, and Muslim people. Women are a step too far though.

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Change doesn't come from no consequences or inaction. Rather than being a sarcastic ass just be happy it happened.

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I am glad that he did, but I am also glad to be a sarcastic ass. Win win

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

You know what sucks about it though, being a deeply sarcastic asshole? I wasn't able to replicate the same damage in my son. He's so earnest and genuine. He has an uncomplicated delight in praise and an open countenance that I will never understand. I feel like an artist who has created one masterpiece by accident and will never know how they managed it.

Dude will be like "daddy, you make the best bread in the world" and by the time I mutter "don't patronise me" he's already talking about something else - and not listening. He keeps getting away with it.

So yeah I like being sarcastic but it has lost some of its shine lately. It's no fun being sarcastic with him.

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Huh ya okay fair

[–] mikesizachrist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Its not unimportant why someone does something.