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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

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A second ScottA post has hit my psyche (scottaaronson.blog)

submitted 1 day ago by YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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Apparently we get a shout-out? Sharing this brings me no joy, and I am sorry for inflicting it upon you.

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Peter Woit has weighed in on this second post as well in an update to his original response. Note that he has linked to the sneersub.

Here's the update text, with links preserved:

Update: More from Scott, it seems that those opposed to what Israel is doing in Gaza are “brain-eaten zombies”. He’s also convinced that the zombie problem is mainly academics in the humanities. I hear that there’s a statement about what is going on in Gaza signed by thousands of prominent scientists that will soon be made public. A lot of very prominent brain-eaten zombie scientists out there, it seems.

Of course he’s still not allowing comments on his blog. For other discussion of his blogposts, see here and here.

E: I don’t know anything about Woit, what should I know about him? I see that, despite his recent disagreements with Scott, he has links on his blog to sht-opt’ed and also other sneer club villain Sabine Hossenfelder. Also, he seems a little judgmental/critical of the pro-palestinian protest tactics. So my guess is: liberal academic that’s probably a little STEM brained, but not anything near problematic enough to be sneered at here.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Hossenfelder seemed like a normal science blogger and critic of string theory until some recent videos, and most people don't update their blogroll every year. And Woit links her sensible (but defunct) blog, not her out-there videos.

A lot of people in this world have connections going back 15 or 30 years but ended up on opposite sides (eg. Charlie Stross and Curtis Yarvin, or Laurie Penny and Scott Aaronson)

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of people in this world have connections going back 15 or 30 years but ended up on opposite sides

Ah, so we're living in the Earth: Shippuden universe. Got it. (jk)

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Once again proving that Naruto is somehow the core of the modern psyche. I don't believe it.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 1 points 14 hours ago

Naruto

I don’t believe it

believe it

😒

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 23 hours ago

And now Woit has banned ScottAa from his blog:

One reason people are not discussing the WWII analogy here is that, as I explained, I delete attempts to argue one way or another about justifying the mass murder of children through things like bad analogies. It’s the kind of thing you seem to really enjoy a lot, but makes me sick to my stomach. [...] Actually, that’s enough. If you want to carry on your arguments for killing children, and engage in lunatic rants about everyone being an antisemite, you have your own blog, can do so there.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

Woit is a math guy at Columbia who is mostly known for calling string theory a crock of non-science. I don't think he's sneerable. Sometimes his opinions align with a remark by, e.g., Hossenfelder, but he's not ... brain-cooked by engagement algorithms like she is. I check in on Woit's blog occasionally to see if there's news in the world of math that I missed, and the sense I get is that he made the criticisms he wanted to make and would rather talk about things he finds more interesting, whereas Hossenfelder is desperate for those physics is a corrupt cabal clicks.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A defining property of a zombie is that it’s not alive, and thus that destroying it is not murder. Not sure if that was what he was going for.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, if I had to guess, it would be that that in part 3 of this shit, Scott begins advocating killing the "zombies". So what he's going for is "manufacturing consent".