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Yes. I suppose because of chauvinism, but I would like to understand it at a deeper level - why do men become like that? I suppose society is geared to push them in that direction?
To reduce decades of theory and praxis into a quip, socialism requires all people to receive the fruits of their labor. Just as the bourgeoisie extract surplus labor from the proletariat, a husband extracts surplus labor from his wife^[this is the concept Marx was talking about when he wrote about the 'abolition of the family' in the Manifesto]. Socialism requires women's liberation, which necessarily means men lose surplus labor from women. Therefore, men as a class will act in their class interest to stifle socialism as it requires women's liberation.
Additionally, the law of supply and demand applies to labor sellers. This means that as the supply of those willing to sell their labor increases, the exchange value of their labor falls. Therefore, proletarian men as a class are inclined to prevent women from selling their labor. This effect also applies to immigration^[Engles wrote about this quite a bit in Conditions of the Working Class. It is racist screed and you probably shouldn't read it.]. Of course, this is not to say that women or immigrants' interests are in conflict with other proletariats, but rather that the bourgeoisie have pitted them against each other.
This is, of course, a massive undersimplificaton that ignores tones of causes and points of view. I'm sure other comrades will be more than happy to talk about other aspects of women's liberation.
GOOD post
Makes sense, thank you! I really need to study theory.
A lot of "machismo" is simply rooted in claiming one part of an alleged binary and defining it as "masculine" - they do this with everything, including political parties.
If suddenly women were rabidly enthusiastic about conservative politics we'd have mobs of young, divorced men (led by Stephan Molyneux) in the streets foisting a nordic demsoc reign of terror, replete with a "green new deal" and UBI, upon us all.
Good points and agreed. Unfortunately it seems that a lot of women have also internalized machismo and chauvinism, and sometimes contribute to its continuation (at least based on some things I've read and even personally experienced in the past). It's a whole unfortunate system.
So if we could associate anti-communism with women and feminism in the popular consciousness, we'd have Bolshevik mobs of young men and divorced dads in the streets waving Soviet flags. Hmm.
This might be how maga-communism came into being
I wouldn't be surprised. Honestly, it's probably the same material conditions that gave rise to German "national-socialism" after the Spartakists failed in 1919 and the liberals/socdems couldn't offer strong policy and a new direction for the failing country.