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[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How many nip slips did 7 of 9 have?

Jeri Ryan is just a good looking actress and spandex are very scifi.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not that I think going straight to the source will sway you, but...

Brannon Braga:

It was late, but I was so excited [...] He [Rick Berman] really liked the idea but he had the stroke of genius, 'Make it a Borg babe.'

Jeri Ryan:

I knew exactly what I was in for when I had my first costume fitting. Clearly my character was added to the show for sex appeal, which remains the one way to get attention very quickly. I don't think it's the only way to get viewers to watch strong women, but it worked.

So no, "spandex are very scifi" doesn't hold a lot of water in this case.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Whoa TV producers have sex-brained politics and just want mass appeal, you don't say?

Doesn't change the fact Voyager still did better on this issue, and the article says a lot about how a boys club mentality was embedded into Enterprise.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you can always go lower, there’s practically no bottom, doesn’t change the fact that crazy over the top outfit was purely to sell sexy

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Does the question: "Did you somehow forget 7 of 9?" read "let's limit the discussion to judging the women based on costumes alone" or say "Lets judge the character's strengths based on why TV producers had them introduced"?

No, the discussion - and even the article is about how Enterprise is claiming to be "a man's man's version of Star Trek" a "boy's club" and feel lucky they got in before Me Too happened.

So reiterating "Yeah, but TV producers really wanted Jeri Ryan to look sexy" doesn't change those facts, or the topic.

Voyager took what producers gave them, and still wrote a deeper look into gender trauma with it.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 days ago

what? no

I’m judging the tv producers

both had sexist elements put into the show

voyager managed to work around it

and the enterprise article is bait