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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

We went like 2 years without that shit getting deleted for ableism and then i see iirc @miz@hexbear.net in the modlog comment removed for calling a dumbass a dumbass and it's like, christ, who is this for? Let my people say dumb

i'll never forget /r/latestagecapitalism banning the word nuts so like you can't ever even say the word in a culinary context without an entire post removed. I think they changed it but jfc

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Because being "dumb" (in both senses of the word) is not necessarily a bad thing. Some people can't retain and recall reliably as much information or they may learn more slowly, but neither of those things are present here. This person collected a lot of information and can reliably recall it, they're just wrong. Lack of what one would normally call "intelligence" is not the issue. You could as well call them ignorant, which at least is accurate, but again it's not morally wrong to be ignorant. Then there's what we really see here: willful ignorance. Intentionally supporting harmful false facts in spite of presented evidence. That's not a lack of intelligence, and often the most insidious of these are the more intelligent ones who may use rhetoric or pseudoscience more effectively than this fellow in the post. I know it forces people to use more words and doesn't allow for snappy comebacks, but maybe we can correctly identify the problem and not marginalize innocent people in the process.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i think you're making people up who self identify as dumb so you can grand stand and feel good about taking a stand about the horrific harm wrought on society by the word dumbass but that's just me

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

I have encountered people who say that insults to intelligence such as those hurt them deeply. I am not one of those myself, so maybe I'm the wrong person to argue this. I'm not making them up, but I won't claim to know an abundance of them either. In any case addressing the issue or argument is typically more effective than a personal insult. Well, that may not be true, I guess. Conservatives get real power just by punching the opposition, but maybe we can be better than that?

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That definition of dumb is extremely limited, you know that people aren’t referring to raw cognitive ability when they call someone dumb or stupid. The word is bigger than that and is used to describe, among other things, exactly them kind of willful ignorance or intellectual laziness that you described the race science guys as displaying. As another poster said, there is no group of marginalized people self-identified or medically classified as “dumb” and there hasn’t been for like two centuries.

[–] larrikin99@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

"You're the smartest guy I ever met. But you're too **removed** to see, he made up his mind ten minutes ago."

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

I think it's really strange to characterize intelligence as "being able to retain and recall facts." That's usually called "knowledge," while "intelligence" is usually the ability to solve problems, i.e. to take given facts and make inferences from them. The question of how this person makes inferences is relevant, though I personally am content to call them fascist and be done with it.

[–] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Ignorance is often characterized as innocent and apolitical but there isn't anything inocent about ignoring things and the processes of discovery and systems of value that lead us to information is highly political.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

my comment was "d*mbass is over the line now?" and it got removed even though I censored the word in question. you might be thinking of comrade_pibb. I won't bother to say what I think of it because the mods will probably remove this too

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Idk about the other comment but that's what i was thinking of

I hate being told how to speak and I hate every other year some Nerd Council of Nicea congregating without us peasants to decide and dictate to us the terms of our speech especially when they forget about it for 2-3 ffucking years and i see the people I know WHO ARE PART OF IT engage in similar speech in that time

It's like the loose legal nature of marijuana still allowing cops to fuck you up if they want, but because you called something stupid and an internet hall monitor didn't like it

[–] MidnightPocket@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I hate being told how to speak

this is how the entire debacle surrounding pronouns for trans comrades started

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The discorderati love applying the 'rules'(often not stayed anywhere and seeminglymade up on the spot if they don't like a comment) unevenly

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I mean, i get it but there should at least be consistency