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I saw someone the other doy talk about the politics of guys like Musk and Thiel and say their politics were "genericaly liberal". Its a stance you can only hove when you don't pay attention. Their political affiliation is Billionare, and all Billionares act in a way to preserve and enhance their position.
this is ironic
Neoliberalism is a kind of liberalism, and both (just like conservativism) serve capitalism (which serves billionaires).
So that person is not wrong (disclaimer - I don't know much about Thiel, but Musk absolutely played the liberal card for a long long time, and is only now letting his more "socially conservative" opinions, like transphobia or support of Russia, out).
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/
https://blacklikemao.medium.com/how-liberalism-helps-fascism-d4dbdcb199d9
https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/
https://nyanarchist.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/scratch-a-liberal-a-fascist-bleeds-how-the-so-called-middle-class-has-enabled-oppression-for-centuries/
I mean he's right, it is. It's also protecting the rest of us from the likes of him.
Thiel and Musk are essentially both techno-utopian, which I would characterize as a nonconservative but still reactionary brand of neoliberalism. They offer no support for social traditions, but also none for social justice. They help entrench the status quo through spectacle and opportunism.
Lmao, sometimes I wish I had the ignorance to claim Thiel was any kind of liberal
You've got balls of steel for wanting to piss off all the people in this world who could unperson you, in person. I salute your efforts and wish you the best with minimal future harassment.