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Afaict, it doesn't really have any major competitors. No, if I have to self host, it's not a competitor
Using discord or self-hosting matrix/XMPP is a false dichotomy. One can join the already established servers available for either protocol.
I gave element / matrix a try recently. It's a very different use case, as (AFAICT) it does not support multi-channel rooms (or whatever you call it). The closest analogue would be WhatsApp / Telegram / Signal.
Also, multi device login is wonky as hell, took me 20 mins of repeated attempts to get it working.
I agree. I just think the reason it doesn't is because it doesn't need to exist. Seriously, 100% of its usecases are better served by something else.
Um. As a simple place for a group to chat and communicate via text?
Discord's great for that. But so many games and software are using it instead of forums or proper issue trackers now. It's a pretty serious downgrade.
Yeah I get the downside of those. But I find it weird how so many people blast discord when it's just about the only option for simple modern text based chat groups
Is it better than Signal/WhatsApp for that?
Signal / WhatsApp are messengers, they're meant for 1 to 1 or small groups. They don't handle large groups well, for which you want things like rooms, roles, moderation, etc. Different niches.
Ah, so large groups specifically? Fair enough
Yeah, I run a hobby club with like 200 members in discord. Handling that in WhatsApp or signal would be such a pain.