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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Chinese vehicles are built with subsidies and sometimes even slave labor to flood the market at artificially low prices.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When the west does it it's called freedom but when China foes it it'd called artificial tyranny.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So is it okay because the West does it too or wdym

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Very simple concept. If 2+2=4 in China and in the West, then if a thing done in the West is "good" then the same thing being done in China must also be "good". The action, not the actor, should determine if a thing is "good" or "bad". Almost all news sources define "good" and "bad" subjectively (i.e. based on the actor) not objectively (i.e. based on the action and the result).

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So are both of those things good or bad in your opinion?

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter what my opinion is I'm arguing for consistency.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

But you don't know if the person you replied to is being inconsistent

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thankyou kind human. Edit: I will go to hell for this but China having a car company called Chery, must cause confusion if the Ch is a Shuh sound like Chevy. Maybe the naming was on purpose to seem close to the American brand?

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The tech and production capacity is good, there just needs to be stricter oversight because at this moment there are no other producers of low cost EVs and I don't really care if they're subsidized when the other players on the market are 15 years behind.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

either the government is subsidizing them below their value to squash competition or they're making money off of them but it cannot be both.

with that said fuck China for persistently siding with Russian authoritarianism.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

American ICE manufacturers received way more subsidies than Chinese EV manufacturers.

[–] trk@aussie.zone -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

oh noes please save me from the being offered the chance to buy modern, well built, and affordable EVs 😢

One more oversized gas guzzler for maximum price please. And shaft me on the services too.