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Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell survivor testified she met Donald Trump at age 14
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Title gore? Ghislaine survivor?
Ah okay, I've not been following this part and didn't know who Ghislaine was — I thought she was one of the victims so I thought she was supposed to be the survivor. She's one of the accused. Gotcha. My mistake.
It's saying she survived both of them.
I realize now that Ghislaine is one of the accused. 🫠 I thought she was one of the survivors...
Did they kill the other victims? Or is Gishlaine dead already? I am confused.
the word survivor is generally preferred to the word victim for people who have gone through sexual abuse.
Read commas in headlines as the word "and"
Yeah I know that much, I was just confused over who was the victim and who was on trial lol. Thanks though!
For years I thought The Onion doing that was part of the joke.
This headline is proof this newspaper convention is stupid. If they're so keen on holding on to this weird tradition of "saving space" in headlines for a medium in decline (print), just use an "&" symbol. It's much more recognisable, comma has a clearly defined function and they're misusing it.
Their tradition be damned.
Just my 2¢
How are people this fucking clueless about the myriad sex crimes that our president committed prior to 2016?
None of this is new. All of this was reported on prior to the 2016 election.
Unreal.
not everyone here is american though. We don't pay attention to every little court room screening in America; and are sometimes finding out via chat rooms like this one
Fair enough... However, there are tons of Americans that are just as clueless
sadly yeah, willfully ignorant people exist everywhere on this floating rock
Bingo. You nailed it.
It was not all reported prior to 2016 since it was the Miami Heralds reporting in 2018 that brought a lot of things into public eye. It was however all reported prior to the 2024 election.
You didn't guess it, but the other person did: I'm not American 😉👍 Watching the shit show from afar and don't have as much detail in media like you do, and we got all of our own shit to worry about on top of your shit, so. It's a lot. 🤪
Take care though.
In news media, titles like "Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell survivor" are meant to be read "Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell survivor". Commas often mean "and" I think to save print space. Pulling that part out of my ass somewhat, but that is still how youre supposed to read it.
Indeed, and I personally hate it. "&" Is right there if they want to save space.
I really dislike when the reason to continue doing something is tradition, and that's what is going on here. It would be so easy to just start using "&" instead of commas, which outside this context are not used this way.
Get with the times, silly journalists.
(Just an extra gripe, that journalists are often really shitty at citing. "A report from XYZ organisation says" yes, which one? Y U DO DIS TO ME?)
Oh, I was like 30 when I found out and was absolutely pissed. I blame style guides and more specifically those who don't dare change them.
I know, I already explained what made me confused in my edit hours ago. 😉👍
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Oh god, not these guys again
I hate how North Americans write headlines.