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I can't speak for everyone but for me personally I'm less angry about the whole "both sides are the same" argument than I am about the total lack of a plan over what to do about it. I agree with what you just said but it gets really old hearing it from people who seemingly think that simply saying the line is enough to actually effect change. Absent of a plan it really feels more like a conspiracy to divide the left than a path towards real change.
I feel ya. I also am very irritated by the tendency of people to say things that are "so brave" and seem to think that they've achieved something. It's too bad I did a bit of that myself there. I don't know what sort of plan there could be. I think the reality is that the situation is messed up in a way that only wealthy powerful people could effectively fix, and good luck getting them to do that.
I feel like supporting people like Mamdani, especially locally, is the best we've got. Yes, I realize the intense irony of the fact that he's literally a member of the Democratic Party, but he's far on the leftmost side of it. I was seeing some other good discussions about how parties can change over time. I think it may be possible to drag the Democratic Party kicking and screaming to the left over time, and the way to do it is to absolutely put a stop to "blue no matter who" voting mentalities. They may be the good cop, but they still want their personal money and power. There is some legitimate competition there between the parties: competition about who gets to rig the system most in the favor of their sponsors/companies/etc. As long as people vote "blue no matter who", the party has literally no incentive to offer more liberal candidates.
I completely agree about Mamdani, first good thing to happen to the Democratic party in a long time! Which is why it's so telling to see how mad they are about it.
On a related note, thank you for the reasonable and well thought out response. All the best to you my friend.
They dont know what else to do but talk.
Democrats aren't "the left." -That's part of the point.
If our actions define us (and i think they do) then the whole vote blue no matter who people define themselves as people who are supporters of conservative neoliberalism.
In absolute terms you're right that Democrats aren't the left but we're not in an absolute situation, we're in a relative situation. Until someone comes up with a plan to actually get sufficient support for a new party or ranked choice voting we're going to remain in this situation where Democrats are the only real option to the "left" of Republicans.
...and whoosh!