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People who get heated over declarations that both sides are the same, take note. This is what we mean when we say this. The Democratic Party could not any more obviously be controlled opposition. This entire team is full of venture capitalists, wealthy people, wealth-backed people.
Both sides aren't the same. In the same sense that the good cop and the bad cop who come to interrogate me aren't the same. It's true the bad cop is going to knock me about a bit and scream at me, and the good cop is going to be nice to me. But they both work for the police. They both are trying to land me in jail. They're on the same side. They're just trying to get what they want out of me from two different angles. The one angle is direct, it does the heavy lifting. Why do you think the Republicans always get so much done when they're in power but when the Democrats hold majorities they don't get anything done? It's for the same reason that the good cop doesn't get me set free back onto the streets without a shred of new evidence out of me. It's unbelievable that people fall for the oldest trick in the book when it's so clearly presented. The people who think the Democratic Party aren't controlled opposition are like people who think the circus clown really didn't mean to slip on that banana peel and land on the whoopee cushion. It's a show, my god.
I can't speak for everyone but for me personally I'm less angry about the whole "both sides are the same" argument than I am about the total lack of a plan over what to do about it. I agree with what you just said but it gets really old hearing it from people who seemingly think that simply saying the line is enough to actually effect change. Absent of a plan it really feels more like a conspiracy to divide the left than a path towards real change.
I feel ya. I also am very irritated by the tendency of people to say things that are "so brave" and seem to think that they've achieved something. It's too bad I did a bit of that myself there. I don't know what sort of plan there could be. I think the reality is that the situation is messed up in a way that only wealthy powerful people could effectively fix, and good luck getting them to do that.
I feel like supporting people like Mamdani, especially locally, is the best we've got. Yes, I realize the intense irony of the fact that he's literally a member of the Democratic Party, but he's far on the leftmost side of it. I was seeing some other good discussions about how parties can change over time. I think it may be possible to drag the Democratic Party kicking and screaming to the left over time, and the way to do it is to absolutely put a stop to "blue no matter who" voting mentalities. They may be the good cop, but they still want their personal money and power. There is some legitimate competition there between the parties: competition about who gets to rig the system most in the favor of their sponsors/companies/etc. As long as people vote "blue no matter who", the party has literally no incentive to offer more liberal candidates.
I completely agree about Mamdani, first good thing to happen to the Democratic party in a long time! Which is why it's so telling to see how mad they are about it.
On a related note, thank you for the reasonable and well thought out response. All the best to you my friend.
They dont know what else to do but talk.
Democrats aren't "the left." -That's part of the point.
If our actions define us (and i think they do) then the whole vote blue no matter who people define themselves as people who are supporters of conservative neoliberalism.
In absolute terms you're right that Democrats aren't the left but we're not in an absolute situation, we're in a relative situation. Until someone comes up with a plan to actually get sufficient support for a new party or ranked choice voting we're going to remain in this situation where Democrats are the only real option to the "left" of Republicans.
...and whoosh!