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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was he popular during his time? Sounds like you are doing historical revisionism.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

A third response is still valid, though. That concept is the cornerstone of everything from data science to regular science. Removing something as sensitive as a poll from it's context is to remove all meaning from it, but again, he was indeed hugely popular. Even the gallup polls at the time support this. I'm really lost as to what you're getting at.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Again, yes? I'm not sure how embedding the image changes it's meaning, but I'm still quite curious as to what your point is.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

favorable 33

unfavorable 63

mhhhh

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So instead of elaborating... you're just going to meme? I mean sure go ahead, it just feels kinda, idk, pointless. ba-dum tss.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do numbers mean anyways?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's what I've been repeatedly asking you.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seems to mean that he wasn't favorable at all.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Wait hangon, is this all because you're interpreting positive approval of a contentious political figure from 1/3 of a population as not popular?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You realize that the figure includes black people right?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The question is optics of the oppressor.

When someone tells they need to be civil and quiet and unobtrusive so straight, white, cis males will support them, and cites King, they're either wildly misinformed of history or siding with the oppressor.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even including black people MLK was factually overwhelmingly unpopular.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

... Except with black people, right?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know what it is, you just don't have a response so you're playing dumb.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I feel like you might be casting your own conceptions as to the basis of my motivations, and they're a little unfair - if you mean that their point is "martin luther king's popularity fell between 1965 and 1966" then sure, that's supported by the above gallup poll. But that's trivially true, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the use of optics by social movements, and also has nothing to do with how hugely popular king was at the time (which is also supported by the same gallup poll).

I have no idea what their point is, though. They've been trying to, idk, entrap me into saying king wasn't popular? Which patently wasn't true, even according to their own sources. So... what? What're they even trying to argue, because this feels very much like they're just trying to 'win' based on a semantic argument I've never ascribed to, after entrenching themselves in a position that the other person never set out or has interest in discussing .

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Spare me the wall of bullshit. You know what they meant, you don't have a response, and you're playing dumb.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bud that is barely two paragraphs, and I substantively respond to both you and them in it.