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'It's a paperweight now': Why the Mounties' ban of popular rifle led to so much pushback (www.cbc.ca)
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When it comes to Canada's often tense debate around gun laws, most Canadians likely will not have heard of an RCMP database called the Firearms Reference Table, or FRT.

The FRT is a database used by the RCMP to help classify firearms. That classification determines whether a gun is non-restricted, restricted or prohibited.

Technically, the FRT isn't a legal instrument, but instead just an internal RCMP tool based on definitions set out in the Criminal Code and Firearms Act. But in practice?

"It's both the law and not the law," said A.J. Somerset, the author of Arms: The Culture and Credo of the Gun.

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[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So, you basically think that when Canadians broadly elected Trudeau on a platform of reigning in gun crime and banning assault style firearms, they were mistaken in their choice?

Trudeau never reigned in gun crime which ruined his credibility, he had 10 whole years to accomplish that task, the statistics are public knowledge.

  • In Toronto, Canada’s largest census metropolitan area (CMA), the proportion of violent crimes that were firearm-related (4.7%) was the second-highest among CMAs. Its rate of firearm-related violent crime (43.2 incidents per 100,000 population) rose 36% from 2021 and 93% since a low in 2013. 
  • Canada’s other two largest CMAs also saw their rate of firearm-related violent crime increase in 2022. In Montréal, the rate (28.0 incidents per 100,000 population) increased slightly (+0.4%) from 2021, following a 12% increase from 2020 to 2021. In Vancouver, the rate (23.6 incidents per 100,000 population) increased 24% from 2021.

No, I didn't. I explicitly asked why anyone should give two shits about gun nuts participating in fake sports. Buy a big buck machine, or take up darts, they're cheaper and more fun.

You call people who own firearms gun nuts but it’s a hobby just like any other, it’s like if I called people who like to knit sewing-freaks.

Frankly quite insulting and unnecessary.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Trudeau never reigned in gun crime which ruined his credibility, he had 10 whole years to accomplish that task, the statistics are public knowledge.

That has literally nothing to do with the constitutionality of his mandate.

You call people who own firearms gun nuts but it’s a hobby just like any other

No, it's fucking not. It's a hobby that requires the mass manufacture and ownership of instant, point and click, murder tools.

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Out of curiosity, in a perfect world and existing regulations excepted, what sort of firearm regulations would you like to see in Canada?

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trudeau having a mandated doesn't mean he has carte blanche to violate the constitution. Unconstitutional laws have been passed, and struck down, before, and doubtless will be again. I'm not saying this particular situation is violating the constitution, but saying someone is elected prime minister means they can do whatever they want, or that it's legal to do so, is demonstrably false.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My response wasn't made in a vacuum, it was made in response to someone claiming that the issue was that he can't delegate authority to the RCMP.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I never said that Trudeau couldn't delegate authority. I said that the RCMP alone should not be designating which guns are legal or illegal.

In fact the Governor-in-Council (aka the Governor General) and the Privy Council have been doing this for years (https://www.securitepublique.gc.ca/cnt/trnsprnc/brfng-mtrls/prlmntry-bndrs/20200930/005/index-en.aspx and https://www.constitutionalstudies.ca/2019/07/governor-in-council/).