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At the end of the day 90% of the increasing doomerism, critique or negativity towards things, and china in particulalar is justifyiable anger about China's relative innaction towards the genocide in palestine from people that are hopeless, living in countries that directly found and facilitate the genocide and not being able to square the China that they have been hopefull about as a socialist force of good with the extreme suffering that is allowed to so shamelessly happen. I dont have the answers here. Im just saying that the whole shift has little to do with any real shift in China's own economic or developmental policy or even foreign policy compared to 1-2-3-5 years ago, or some slide back to neoliberalism or whatever. Any reasons one had to believe some years ago, after analysing China's system and choices, that they are on the right path and are doing socialism and slowly solving their contradictions and overtaking the US and gaining in the balance of power etc etc they can find the same ones still being true and even more validated and clear. The sentiment driving and allowing that mood shift comes from the other stuff

As far as specific users go imma be honest, ever since i saw XHS buying and using some obvious anti-china slop stories like some Chinese sub(s) sinking sourced from some taiwanese tabloid and a single sexpat analyst to doom post, i cant take them too seriously about other matters either. You cant find those comments because XHS deletes everything and has changed like 5 accounts in two years but still despite that i have made some effort posts against some of their most "interesting" claims. But its increasinlgy meaningless to argue Pekingology but from a "find the neoliberalism" perspective based on assertions and stats that can be sourced, explained and used 5 different ways . Reality itself is and will bring the receipts. The reality im seeing isnt one that aligns with negative coverage of pretty much every single Chinese foreign, monetary or developmental choice that happened in the last 2-3 years (they have spoken favorably about things that happened before they started commenting, and things no one can deny like tech or industrial development but almost never about any contemporary choise or moves, and that favorable coverage of past moves is to say "Back then i actualy thought this and they were doing the good thing but i was naive and they libed up now") and where every other US foreign or monetary policy move was a correct chess move for the empire. Sorry if thats presumptious but its increadibly easy to just dismiss super serious monetary analysis when i remember that they also intermittently post YT/ Twitter threads tier slop like this for years:

Over the past few months, China has experienced a political shakeup that has not occurred since the Cultural Revolution.

First, purge of the PLA high command (Li Shangfu still hasn’t resurfaced since his disappearance) and PLA’s Rocket Force chief replaced (Wang Houbin from PLA Navy replacing Xu Xisheng).

Meanwhile, the top echelons of PLA Rocket Force is being investigated for “corruption scandal” (Li Yuchao et al.)

Foreign Minister Qin Gang sacked.

Li Keqiang dead.

Finance Minister replaced (Lan Foan replacing Liu Kun)

Head of Central Bank replaced (Pan Gongsheng replacing Yi Gang)

Then there’s a rumor from Western media about a submarine incident in the Yellow Sea.

Xi’s political position is more precarious than ever. Biden has made incisive political, economic and financial offensives against China, and China is only starting to realize that de-dollarization is not so easy after all.

For now i will simply glance over a comment quickly, shrug and say to myself "meh, i'll believe it when i see it".