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Image is from this article, of a Chilean copper quarry.

Title is a reference to Trump's social media post about copper, which was, as usual, mostly deranged.


Trying to follow Trump's administration is pretty difficult, but as of right now, he is threatening 30% tariffs on Mexico and the EU starting on August 1st, as well as new tariff announcements on a bunch of other countries (including, bizarrely, a 50% tariff on Brazil), and also apparently a 50% tariff on copper, which the US imports half its supply of and is, of course, a very important metal in many applications.

I'm not sure what the plan is to bring back domestic copper production beyond hoping that it just sorta works out, but prominent copper producers, such as Chile and Canada, seem both concerned and confused. Reuters had a line that made me chuckle:

Boric said he was awaiting official communication from the U.S. government, including whether the tariffs would include copper cathodes, and questioned "whether this will actually be implemented or not."

Big mood, Boric.


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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/insoumission

feels like melenchon is a bit copeful on the usa and people of france tbh.

especially this passage

I also want to make a bet. I think that by the end of the century, maybe even sooner, the United States of America will not exist. Why? Because it’s not a nation, it’s a country that has been at war with all its neighbuors since the moment of its birth. Samuel Huntington described it as a fundamentally unstable structure and predicted that the language that will eventually become dominant there is Spanish. A huge proportion of the US population now speaks Spanish at home, and this part of the population is mostly Catholic, in contrast with the ‘enlightened’ Protestants who founded the country. These linguistic and cultural dynamics are very important. People care deeply about their native language: the one their mother used to sing them to sleep, the one they use to tell their partner that they love them. In California – a state that was torn away from Mexico, with an economy that’s the fourth largest in the world in terms of GDP – Spanish is spoken everywhere, more so than English. It is no wonder that the campaign for Californian independence is gaining traction, with a referendum to be held perhaps as early as next year. I don’t know whether it will work, but it is striking that a major state within the world’s leading power is already considering the possibility of secession. We’re going to see more of this. And the country’s dominant ideology – ‘every man for himself’ – is not going to hold it together.

too much cultural analysis, little bit of materialist analysis. noticeable amount of those people speaking spanish would join ice-s to get irish ascension to the labor aristocracy, just like civil rights produced clyburn.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 18 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

By the end of the century the USA won't exist? That seems pretty conservative to me, imo. Does anyone really think this empire's got 75 years left in it?

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 27 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

As a global hegemon? Probably not. As a UK-esque shambling abomination? I can see it.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The UK? Do you mean the independent nations of Scotland, England, Wales, and Ireland?

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

US states are already more independent than any of the "nations" in the UK

[–] jack@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago

I mean within 75 years

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 13 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

i feel like reasoning of not existing is lacking (or rather heavily cultural). amerikkka has everything it needs to be fully autarkic, first of all, the profit rate is fine, the neighbors are cowed. even absent of imperial transfer, i don't see why it would disintegrate, and the imperial transfer doesn't show signs of stopping. california gdp is a joke without imperial power, so that's right out, and that encompasses all secessionist causes, maybe this side of hawaii.

while i can buy reconfiguration of empire, i doubt the state falling

[–] jack@hexbear.net 20 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

There is no way the US in anything like its current form can continue for more than a few more decades. The American capitalist class has been forced into a state of hyper-cannibalism by the rise of China and the falling rate of profit. It has lost the capacity for class mediation through any mechanism except violence. The worst case scenario (outside of nuclear apocalypse, which would also destroy the USA) is a period of open fascism, and such a thing can only ever last a few decades. Fascism is inherently unstable and constantly accelerates its own contradictions. The free land and imperial plunder that undergirded fascist-like US colonialism has been squeezed for all its got. This system is absolutely doomed.

Maybe some radically transformed thing called the USA emerges from the ashes, but it would need to be a state with a fundamentally different approach to class mediation that, I think, could emerge only from a dramatic break in continuity and the de facto end of the USA as it has existed to this point.

I haven't read the whole Melenchon piece yet but I do agree that excerpt is not a very strong argument, pretty idealistic.

[–] Lisitsyn@hexbear.net 19 points 22 hours ago

the imperial transfer is literally being curbed or stomped right in front of our eyes, the global south is decoupling from america. just because it doesnt happen immediately doesnt mean it wont happen or is not happening. 75 years is a long fucking time as well, the crushing of the paris commune is 76 years detached from the end of ww2 and half of europe going socialist in its aftermath

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

the usa and people of france

Was wondering if this was an intentional distinction using the state of the US and the people of France, or just came out that way.