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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 121 points 8 months ago (6 children)

He using a personal email for that? Because I work for the state and I know ALL of my emails are subject to FOIA so I keep them clean of personal shit

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 71 points 8 months ago (2 children)

From the same crowd who still chants "buttery males"

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"but her emails" in reference to Hillary Clinton.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh jeez. It's the whole Brandon thing all over again, can't people just use real words *shakes cane at children on my lawn

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Never understood what the "Brandon" references were, happy to keep things that way though.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It originated from a Nascar crowd yelling "fuck Joe Biden" and a reporter claiming on air that they were saying "lets go Brandon," cheering on one of the drivers.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yep was definitely better off not knowing this

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't even work for the government, and my personal rule is "never put anything in writing that I wouldn't be able to explain to a judge."

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

For real, anything sent from a company email is owned by the company. Not that a company usually has time to go through such shit but they can if they need/want to. It's usually very easy to do and can be done without the worker ever knowing.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

The only safe communication is with your lawyer. Second would be your spouse, just don't get a divorce.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago

Elon's Boca Chica launch facility is a nightmare of violating all kinds of environmental and safety regulations, going way beyond the scope of what it was originally permitted and cleared for.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-BavKuMDed0&list=PL-eVf9RWeoWEfSK9mjKe4E67IK1-1vZxB&index=24

This is from 3+ years ago now, and most of the shit brought up here got poo-poo'd online by ravenous Musk sycophants, and seems to have just led to nothing actually happening in terms of some kind of a lawsuit or punishment for Musk or SpaceX...

... and of course, its all only gotten worse with more time.

SpaceX launches showering debris over the Caribbean, latest rocket being prepped to be the next IFT launch just fucking detonated while being fueled, damaged much of the rest of the complex... and the complex itself is now a bunch of very densely packed storage tanks, which easily could have also all blown up if that most recent on pad explosion played out just a bit differently, or maybe a landing capture/catch attempt goes wrong.

Musk's whole... reason for having the chopsticks catch system is that he doesn't want to spring for a larger launch facility with things safely spaced out, he doesn't wanna pay for something akin to the giant NASA crawler vehicle that moves rockets something like a mile or so from the VAB to the actual launch/fueling site at Cape Canaveral.

There's no actual compelling reason for the lower stage, Booster, to not just have landing legs, like the Falcons. Its not going to get 'refurb, refly' times to even within two orders of magnitude of what he's shooting for. The fastest ever turn around time on a Falcon is like, 3ish weeks... and he's talking about launching multiple Starship+Boosters in a single day now.

To date, no Starship nor Booster has ever been re-used without suffering a catastrophic loss on that re-use. He is no where near a re-usable fleet of these things.

Err, well, there is actually a real reason for the chopsticks, and all the rest of his nonsense: His engines aren't as powerful or reliable or fuel efficient as he said they were for years.

But he can't actually directly say that or else SpaceX probably goes bankrupt or at best gets pared down to just running Falcons.

He recently revised Starship+Booster down to only being capable of 50 tons to LEO, not the long touted 100 tons.

He then proceeded to have ... 2, 3? Catastrophic failures on 'test' launches where the claim is that they're being done for the 'data', when the obvious fact is that no almost no useful data of any kind is being gained from all this.

Whats going on is quality control sucks, Musk/SpaceX have no idea how to actually properly assemble these things, oh right and the design is fundamentally flawed, but its fine, because Starship 2 and 3 are gonna come out... some time later.

You know, like how Roadster v2 is gonna come out any day now, for the past decade, how all Tesla cars will suddenly become perfectly fully autonomous, any day now, for the last decade.

From the article:

Kevin Bagnall, a lawyer representing Musk’s rocket company SpaceX, also wrote a letter to Paxton’s office arguing the emails should be kept secret. He cited one main reason: They contain “commercial information whose disclosure would cause SpaceX substantial competitive harm.”

Most of the rest of Bagnall’s letter, which further explained SpaceX’s argument, was redacted.

Musk and representatives for his companies did not respond to requests for comment for this story.

imo, Abbot and Musk are and have been colluding to maunever around SpaceX's frequent and flagrant violations, to get investigations stalled, to get authorizations rubber stamped... so they communicate outside official channels to pull this off.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I have a separate cell phone for city business, so I don't have ANY cross-contamination between personal and city data.

And it's been handy in Open Records requests where reporters have asked for my phone and text logs. With the personal and city info being separate, I don't have to worry about needing the state AG to authorize reductions.

I black out sensitive data (there's a list of what kinds of data should be redacted without an AG opinion), and I hand it over.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I also work for the state, and occasionally have to remind myself that anything I email could be read in court in an anti-sarcastic deadpan tone.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, frankly, if you use your government email to share results of your colonoscopy and the details of your infidelity, that's on you. You don't get to hide your publically accessible documents behind those things just because you can't compartmentalize your personal life.