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[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

he needs an armed guard of committed socialists like yesterday to prevent this exact scenario from happening.

i dont really disagree but who though? FRSO seems like an org that would be willing, and maybe even able with how secretive they seem to be, but they're tiny from what i can tell and i'd be very surprised if they want to bring down the state on their head for a DSA member. PSL might have the size (no clue what their new york chapter is like though), but i have seen nothing to suggest that they have any sort of armed wing/training and seem very unwilling to do so, at least from all the protests i've seen. CPUSA are the biggest fraud sheepdog of the democrats of all time, and if DSA (and especially NY DSA) ever provide armed socialists to anyone anywhere i might have a heart attack and die on the spot in shock. who's even left? IMT/RevCom? too busy selling news papers. SRA? it honestly isnt a real org and is pretty small anyways. only other org i can think of is john brown gun club tbh lol

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Dual power, Zohran has to build it himself tbh. He's the new mayor in all but name, if he wants to enact his agenda he's going to need to take on the biggest gang that actually runs NYC, which is the NYPD. He's gonna need goons for that. If he's got any brains and is actually serious about enacting an even remotely socialist agenda he needs armed goons like a supervillain, and they've gotta be loyal to him. I don't think you'd be able to get an org to do this.

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i mean in this scenario they deport him before he even gets to run for general election he doesnt have time to do this

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

I mean he's got time to build an ideologically committed security detail like right now. None of that is dependent on him being mayor.