this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2025
-11 points (34.3% liked)
Asklemmy
49028 readers
813 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
Search asklemmy π
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I'll judge you for any holiday destination that you travel to for anything but visiting family. Did you make your own country so ugly you have to go somewhere where it's still nice, causing the place to become a resort desert? Can't afford booze in your own country so you have to annoy the locals by ambling along their beaches in drunk shrimp mode? Want to explore the latest 'cool' city making rent unaffordable for locals in the process? Just stay at home and make sure it's a place you don't want to run away from.
Isolationist viewpoints are the complete opposite of what we need right now. Most of your reasons don't even apply to the majority of tourists; it's the select few idiots who fuck everything up.
I'm pretty sure that those who have fucked up Barcelona, Lisbon, Mallorca, Ibiza, most of the Mediterranean and countless other places around the world were more than a select few idiots. Beautiful beaches (before all the resorts are built), cheap partying (before all the tourist traps open) and must-have-seen culture (before they have to protect the famous artworks from being destroyed by the masses) are the reasons why most people travel abroad. It's a bad habit and people should really ask themselves if the nearest lake isn't just as relaxing - or even more relaxing - than yet another place far away destroyed by its own desirability. And then they still have the gall to get whiny when their beautiful resort surrounded by 'nature' burns down in a wildfire and they have to shorten their vacation! Planet is on fire but it obviously has nothing to do with my cheap Ryanair flight!
Your argument is shit. Itβs basically βsome tourists bad, therefore all tourism bad.β
Like how dare people want to see the world?
You misread. My argument is "most tourists bad, most tourism bad". Considering the crisis situation we are living in, especially climate change, people should ask themselves whether seeing the world is really that important. Questioning the tourism industry as a whole sure makes people defensive. I'm not against people seeing other places at all, I'd rather not have it happen in the way it's happening now as it's stupidly destructive and selfish. Can we set up things in a way where you can rather spend several months immersed in a different culture than rushing to somewhere for the two measly weeks your employer lets you out of your cubicle? Or is that too radical and we're doomed to forever keep building ugly resorts and turn everything into AirBnbs?
Yeah... I'm in Dubrovnik right now, as a tourist, and this place is fucked.
I feel quite bad about it, and how amazing it must have been before all the tourists (myself included) came along.
It's a crying shame, and I take your point.
This place, and so many like it have been destroyed by tourism.
So wait, does this apply in both directions? It seems kind of impossible that people from city A are ruining city B and people from city B are also ruining city A.
I can't tell you why anyone in their right mind would do this but apparently they do. Although usually there will be more people going from the more expensive city A to the cheaper city B.